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A third batch of 11 Wisent 2s was just confirmed for Norway. 8 will be in the AEV role, and the remaining 3 in the ARV role. FMA also makes a point to mention that some of these were needed to replace the 3 NM189 AEVs and the single NM217 ARV that were donated to Ukraine earlier this year. https://www.fma.no/aktuelt-og-media/2020/forsvaret-far-flere-ingenior-og-bergingspanservogner Another 2 LEGUAN Leo 2 AVLBs are also in the pipeline, but there's been no news of any contract just yet. And finally, the option to purchase the additional 18 Leo 2A8NOR apparently runs out today, so unless we see some kind of announcement on this today, even just an extension of the deadline, I don't have much hope for any additional MBTs for Norway.
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The American company Miller Industries Towing Equipment Inc. (MITE) has received a contract to deliver seven light armoured recovery vehicles to the Norwegian Army, by developing and integrating a recovery module onto the newly developed ACSV G5. The contract also includes an option for two more light ARVs. https://www.fma.no/aktuelt-og-media/2020/forsvaret-far-nye-pansrede-bergingsvogner
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Norwegian media are now reporting that the serial production of the ACSV G5 will commence around the turn of the year at the earliest. Production bottlenecks caused by the Ukraine war, on top of after effects from the pandemics and the 2021 floods, are cited as reasons for the delays. That said, this is kind of old news at this point (at least for anyone who has been paying close attention to this project), so I can’t help but wonder if it might not be related to this recent visit to FFG by Stoltenberg and Pistorius...
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That’s a very difficult question to answer since the 2A7 NOR is surrounded in speculation more so than facts. It might be that it was going to be something else before the Norwegian Army changed up its mind (for one reason or the other), or it could be that the 2A7NOR was finalised as the 2A8NOR because the Norwegian and German armies were of a similar mind about what their future tank should be like.
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Leo 2A8 for Norway too it seems. Main difference will be integration of Kongsberg ICS/CORTEX, and probably few other changes, earning the tank the designation Leo 2A8 NOR, but it's essentially the same tank as the one that will be delivered to the BW (with more countries likely to follow). https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/configuration-is-finalised-for-norways-leopard-2a8-tank-order/
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According to the Dutch MoD, a Boxer based solution would be considerably more expensive, but they do not mention any numbers. "The SHORAD capability will be delivered on the Armored Combat Support Vehicle (ACSV) G5. The SHORAD solution on the ACSV G5 is fully compliant and MOTS is available (the ACSV G5 is in production and will be delivered to Norway in Q3 of this year). The development risks for the integration with the MMR and the command and control IT of Defense are low, resulting in MOTS. The alternative, the SHORAD solution on the Boxer armored vehicle, is considerably more expensive, has a high development risk and has a longer delivery time." https://open.overheid.nl/documenten/a7533034-3089-4996-9187-2603a070a97b/file
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Looks like the Netherlands are acquiring the SHORAD variant of the ACSV G5: https://www.defensie.nl/actueel/nieuws/2023/06/05/verwerving-luchtverdediging-op-korte-en-middellange-afstand-in-1-project
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Re the Norwegian acquisition, it's been revealed that the contract value sits at approx. 11.5 BNOK, and that it will cost 3.6 BNOK to acquire another 18. So roughly 20 million USD per tank. https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gl7aTL9wZWEJ:https://www.tu.no/artikler/prisen-pa-tyske-stridsvogner-er-klar-koreanerne-besoker-norge-for-a-fa-svar/527779&cd=1&hl=no&ct=clnk&gl=no
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As with the Wisent 2s, it seems they’re looking to implement some weight saving measures on the new Leo 2 AVLBs: https://www.fma.no/aktuelt-og-media/2020/vintertesting-av-haerens-nye-bropanservogner?fbclid=IwAR2ENR_nhxj8kv8PvQjT7LXsmVUm04TERIp9GNe6IDrb_uHPM9HLCMt6U_I * I wonder if these "light skirts" are just the standard Leo 2 skirts, that are only lighter in comparison to the heavier and better protected skirts on the German Army's Leo 2 AVLB?
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Well, earlier in Oct, ROK stated that they’d be willing to give up 24 tanks from their own production line, and could ship these to Norway in 6-8 months, but those would almost certainly have been regular K2s, and not the proposed K2NO variant. Still, a couple of dozen interim/“gap filler” K2s would nonetheless have been an improvement on the current tanks, even if they didn’t meet all of the requirements, so there is that to consider. On the other hand, I personally can’t really see why this would have been a particularly big selling point until the government decided that we should donate some of our Leo 2s to Ukraine (even though we barely have enough to outfit our current tank squadrons…), but that decision was also made after FMA had already delivered their recommendation, so who knows... Not attack helos. Just new transport helos (Bell 412 replacement) for the Army and SOF, as well as new naval helos (NH90 NFH replacement) for the Navy and Coastguard. He also wants long range rocket artillery, and more air defence systems. In other words, sensible stuff, which should be funded, but so should the new tanks IMO.
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