Volkswagen Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 They are weapons from central Indian tribes if I understand it correctly, you can find most of them mentioned here: https://archive.org/details/anillustratedha00egergoog page 78-79 if the picture few pages earlier doesn't show (doesn't for me) If you like something less exotic you might like these: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=94655&stc=1 https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/3c/92/df/3c92df76fc3dc0c6a4ca14b20800aeb9.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/00/fb/b3/00fbb3c6d96979e52380c241309f2f2c.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volkswagen Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Oh, and this guy has bullova axe (or several?) in his videos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 They are weapons from central Indian tribes if I understand it correctly, you can find most of them mentioned here: https://archive.org/details/anillustratedha00egergoog page 78-79 if the picture few pages earlier doesn't show (doesn't for me) If you like something less exotic you might like these: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=94655&stc=1 https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/3c/92/df/3c92df76fc3dc0c6a4ca14b20800aeb9.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/00/fb/b3/00fbb3c6d96979e52380c241309f2f2c.jpg Oh, huh. Are they ceremonial or for combat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volkswagen Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Basically the ones that are numbered from 30 to 60 are all for warfare, so pretty much all of them. Had to find a better res picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Axes: someone is gonna get hurt. Volkswagen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 I guess I'd have to see in what context those weapons were used. Billhooks, for instance, look weird but are damn practical for yanking down cavalry and killing Scottish kings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 And also garden work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Yep. Pretty good for cutting through wood branches a couple inches thick or so which - coincidentally - also makes them handy for cutting up enemy spears of the same diameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 This is hilarious: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priory_of_Sion Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 I didn't catch any egregious errors. Pretty good video, nothing really new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted November 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Lloyd takes a look at the American election, and Yes, Minister: Belesarius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Volkswagen Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 I don't completely disagree with Lloyd but I'd like to remind that once again, not all halberds are uniform in shape. Sometimes the cutting blade is canted, other times it's straight, and sometimes the spike/spearhead is long and stubby - other times it has a ability to cut and is short. The halberds Lloyd show in his video are mostly from late 15th century to late 16th century so it could be just a preferred look of the time. I would also like to point out that the shape of the lower part of the cutting portion will probably be a better indicator to if you wan't to do more of a pulling-cut with the weapon. + That chop motion he does when he talks about stab vs chop is way overblown (you don't really have to load up so much with a long polearm to inflict damage). h Belesarius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashbotUS Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 They are basically an evolution of the atgeir or hoggspjot "hewing spears", which could be used to chop, cut, and stab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volkswagen Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 In means of functionality, pretty much yes - but I doubt there is any direct "lineage" between the two. Also wouldn't something like partizan fit more as a successor, considering it doesn't have a axe-like blade? PS. a bit older version of "halberd": Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashbotUS Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 There is a type of lineage from the atgeir in the fact that old Norse texts poorly translated atgeir and atgeirsstafir to "halberd". We really don't have any archaeological evidence of an atgeir, what we have are descriptions from sagas. People have done some experimental archaeology and pieced together what they think the weapon would have looked like. Of course this resembles a bardiche or even a longaxe. 10th century examples of ax heads, which you can read more about in the blog in the "general archaeology" thread if you have any interest in those. Volkswagen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volkswagen Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 What I meant with lineage is a non stop continuation of evolution if that makes sense. As in evolution of atgeir might have gone "extinct", and later on when the need for polearms came back - some other solution was created or taken. The translation 'halberd' is a bit confusing; did they translate it to that because that's the only polearm they knew and somewhat fit the description? But yeah, whilst I won't try to guess the possible shape of that weapon, I wouldn't be surprised if it was something pretty basic like early voulges, winged-spears and suchlike. I remember having seen that blog, it is really good! CrashbotUS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashbotUS Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I really think it comes from a lack of a better word and not a direct translation. There are a half dozen other words that have been "translated" as halberd also. Like bryntröll, höggspjót, sviða, brynklungr, heftisax, fleinn etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashbotUS Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 While we are the topic of pole arms, here are some I took photos of the armory in the Doges Palace in Venice. Donward, Collimatrix, Sturgeon and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Lindy seems awful pleased about these Orwellian developments: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Lindy seems awful pleased about these Orwellian developments: He's a brit - they're used to living in a 1984 LARP now. Also, he missed out on the promising field of terrifyingly good facial recognition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogensthegreat Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Matt Easton is highly triggered: I like his description of fantasy medieval armor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashbotUS Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 He's not wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 This seemed like an appropriate place for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted May 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 The problem with that choreography to me is that it looks like choreography. CrashbotUS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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