LoooSeR Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 So this new Quake is... F2P Overwatch-alike shooter? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Funny how even IGN reviewer point out that some of abilities of those "heros" are working against core mechanics of Quake 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Collimatrix Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Right now I think there are exactly three sorts of games you don't want to make: MOBA Overwatch-clone MMORPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scolopax Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 The next entry in the CoD series being titled "Call of Duty: WW2" just sounds ...bad. Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 If they actually make the new Quake a fucking Team Fortress Overwatch clone then fuck gaming forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 8 hours ago, Collimatrix said: Right now I think there are exactly three sorts of games you don't want to make: MOBA Overwatch-clone MMORPG Wouldn't it be more accurate to call Overwatch a LoL/TF2 clone that somehow gets credited for inventing it's own genre of games because Blizzard can do no wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 59 minutes ago, Khand-e said: Wouldn't it be more accurate to call Overwatch a LoL/TF2 clone that somehow gets credited for inventing it's own genre of games because Blizzard can do no wrong? It's different. Overwatch is a shooter first with a hint of MOBA flavor. First person MOBAs are a pretty dubious idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Just now, Collimatrix said: It's different. Overwatch is a shooter first with a hint of MOBA flavor. First person MOBAs are a pretty dubious idea. TF2 is also a shooter, just without the MOBA shit added. hence why I compared it to TF2/LoL. There's only one real ARTS anyway, It's called DotA 1 and 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 What are you talking about? TF2? You mean the hat simulator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 5 hours ago, Scolopax said: The next entry in the CoD series being titled "Call of Duty: WW2" just sounds ...bad. If they ever made a "CoD: First Italo - Ethiopian War", I would so play the shit out of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Italo-Ethiopian_War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 I'm confused, how is the new Quake an OW clone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 24 minutes ago, Sturgeon said: I'm confused, how is the new Quake an OW clone? It's not an exact clone by any means, but there are some elements visible, like it being class based, characters having specific stats and hitboxes (seriously, what the fuck on the hit boxes) and special passive and active powers. Literally, if they design it at all like any of the old quake games, people are just going to pick the really fast, agile characters with the smallest hitboxes, being fast in Quake is like the biggest advantage you can have like Rocketninja mentioned. The problem is, when game developers take ideas from other, more popular games and add them to a completely different franchise to compete, it generally keeps following that trend. look at what happened to DOOMs multiplayer when they tried to make it DOOM meets CoD/Halo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Is it class based? I just watched the gameplay video. Didn't the previous Quake games have hitboxes, too? I know UT definitely did, which is mostly what I played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, Sturgeon said: Is it class based? I just watched the gameplay video. Didn't the previous Quake games have hitboxes, too? I know UT definitely did, which is mostly what I played. Yeah, but they were all the same size so in competitive play, you couldn't gain an advantage from picking a female character or something else with a smaller build. I can pretty much foresee now that no one will even pick the bigger, "tankier" heroes because being slow and having a larger hitbox will massively negate the advantages of more health as in Quake, speed and Agility are THE factors you want on a character (granted, these were all even in previous quake games, but as I was saying), losing that plus having a larger hitbox is just a target for getting you murderfucked by any of the smaller characters who can aim in the slightest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Oh you meant specific hitboxes, like particular to each class. Yeah, I don't see that meshing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, Sturgeon said: Oh you meant specific hitboxes, like particular to each class. Yeah, I don't see that meshing well. There's a very big reason the Lightning Gun and the Railgun are basically the top 2 most valued weapons in competitve quake (and the Rocket Launcher of course, the Grenade launcher is situationally really useful but that's missing) If you get those against an opponent who doesn't they simply can't openly trade with you without a pretty massive HP/Armor advantage and/or severely out playing you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xlucine Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 12 hours ago, Donward said: If they ever made a "CoD: First Italo - Ethiopian War", I would so play the shit out of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Italo-Ethiopian_War You'll need to buy the DLC to get anything better than several rifles EnsignExpendable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 On 4/21/2017 at 6:27 PM, Khand-e said: If they actually make the new Quake a fucking Team Fortress Overwatch clone then fuck gaming forever. Everything is copying Tribes 2 anyway. And doing it badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 Tribes spinfusor duels were the shit. I wish there was a remake of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect said: Everything is copying Tribes 2 anyway. And doing it badly. Well, Tribes 2 just copied Quake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect Posted April 24, 2017 Report Share Posted April 24, 2017 Tribes 2 did jetpacks justice. OPEN TERRAIN FIGHTING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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