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Yep,this refers specifically to the "Gun Shield" mentioned in this video, IIRC it should be called "Funktionsmodul".
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From drawing annoation. It's AlMg4.5MnW
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Indeed the Leopard 2A5/6/7's gun mount structure is the best protected I've ever seen. I suppose the two hinged modules have the same plates as the mantlet's "KE-Modul" excluding the ~30mm frontwall and air gap , so it's probably ~330mm thick(if considering the frontwall to maintain same total steel thickness it might be ~360mm), with ~210mm armor steel rotor and additional wedge heavy NERA, the equivalent steel thickness on the entire path is over 600mm and close to 700mm, even thicker at the trunnion position, though the rotor has a lot of holes to install recoil mechanisms and MG.etc. , IMO it's still quite enough just in terms of protecting crews. Sketch not stand for real things.
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Does anyone know which document or patent this picture comes from?
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Interesting stuff, do u have the original source or file? I also want to make a scale model
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Tanks guns and ammunition.
Molota_477 replied to Militarysta's topic in Ballistics Science Discussion
AFAIR, from this paper AN OVERVIEW OF PROTECTION TECHNOLOGY FOR GROUND AND SPACE APPLICATIONS -
Really doubt how a ''30mm'' can cause such damage.
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To clarify this point, I post these schemes in weibo for easy illustration purpose, I don't want to post original source pics because the weibo platform is a place full of marketing accounts, if you do not make any process in your posts then they will turn into other peoples money, that's what I dont want to see,and my blog is non-profit account, I only post message to my readers and if any one is interested in details can make comments below posts or PM me. In short, it is made by environment. As for MILAN, I know its core dia is 95mm, if you mean this point why you don't stress HOT isn't 136mm?
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T-80 Megathread: Astronomical speed and price!
Molota_477 replied to Vasily Krysov's topic in Mechanized Warfare
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Of course from real documents. Not very old, there're some files varied from 1985 to 1990.
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The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines
Molota_477 replied to T___A's topic in Mechanized Warfare
https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/1872ce_9930857da5734a0496220e05503b7fb0.pdf- 5,188 replies
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The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines
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As for the problem of armor type, Swiss had given an answer I think- 5,188 replies
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- real life has a uvz bias
- make lkz great again
- t-72 over t-64 all day erry day
- t-80 worst mistake of lkz life
- the object 167t engine was better
- so was object 278 engine
- t-64 so weak it cannot handle glorious t-34 engine which conquered hitlerite germany
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hmm, I see, I will take care on such thing later. 200mm is based on the table of Chieftain Burlington report, but not accurate value so I just estimated it. For now I only post them on Chinese speaking platform, and have noted about it.
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BTW, 480/750 was based on anther RARDE Report about ENT, and the report with options comparison did wrote some data of protection level of CR1 if you have the report you can find it in annex of Leo 2.
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I have said that was estimated
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Britain used 105mm L64 to simulate 115mm KE threat(tungsten cored APFSDS),and 120mm XL23 to simulate 125mm threat ( tungsten cored APFSDS) in early 1980s.
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Thank you! Pretty sure it is. This photo is from the book of CR1 Owners' workshop manual, p29.
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Thanks,I 'll try to find. Yes the 78013 dated on April, and the 78020 dated on June.
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I don't know where it said, can you give some hints? All my data come from MVEE Report 78013 and 78020, their time frame is 1978.
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Indeed the requirement data can not represent the implemented protection level, the GSR3574 had already restricted the weight is 62 tonnes. Edit: There are some interesting armor weight data of MBT80 here: To against the 430mm KE threat(Original GSR 3572), the turret armor weight —— 6045kg As for 480mm KE threat—— 6880kg And 540mm KE threat —— 7495kg While Challenger only estimated to have 5498kg of armor on the turret.
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I don't think that is M111, it might be some type of experimental sheated APFSDS but with 32mm dia. There are plenty data of M111 in Chinese: Its V50 of againsting 150mm/60° target is about 1260m/s
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The initial Equipment Requirment of GSR3574 defined that CR1's turret must retain the minimum protection requirement of MBT-80, which should withstand 600mm CE and revised 480mm KE within ± 25° front arc. But as for hull front, because of the steel structure was too heavy, only required significant improvement against HEAT than Chieftain while KE resistance not less than Chieftain.( Only needed to against 85mm HEAT)
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Interesting that the No.4 array had been mentioned in a report of Chieftain mk5/2, would you mind share the source of this message? Title of report is ok.