Molota_477

How they get the thickness data?

How thick is the front side armor?

80 steel +35 ceramic+10 steel +35 ceramic+ 80 steel ？

http://uploads.ru/XbKtl.jpg

Latest version,from Paralay.

All right~

Eh..I dont know Russian.

If possible,sometimes I want to buy or exchange something for those blueprints(If there is someone has interest in PLA tanks...though I think thats may not be practicable) :-I

That's the “redraw” based on the buleprint, isn't it?

Also I doubt it..

but,the design of Azovochka looks so great,the engines' position like the FCS concepts,I like this style ,-)

@Militarysta

Can you post this patent?

Yeah,it is.Well,I just know it is Leo 2AV right now,thanks.

Whatever it is, I like it.

Thanks a lot, I think that LKZ should choose the Arena and plan for 299,which can be found in the model.

M1 hull front armor?

Well - I doubt, becouse on Ob.477A1 is based Nota, and it's still OPSPEC... couse Biala project More or less it's the same tank whit diffrent FCS and armour

Bad news to me .

It seems that I still have to wait for a longtime before I see the real face of Nota.

By the way I am very curious about why not Russian guys disclose some details about Nota but care the Ukrainian secret protect's security, if Russian also have some unspeakable secret controlled in Ukrainian? So there was a consensus between Rus and Ukrainian that they would keep the words about their super tanks program,-)

Well,,above isn't the points,I would like to ask some questions to confirm some relationships among those projects.

1. What you post before have said that the upgrade from 477/477a to Nota mainly because the new gun and ammunitions were required. And as we can see the magazine of 477 could only store the projectiles no longer than circa 800mm,but the new APFSDS under development like Grifel-1/2 (Im not sure and I also want to know if they have been used on 477a1)have been longer than 1000mm.So I think it may be the main reason of improving armment machine structure. Am I get it correctly?

2.Also I have no idea about why they developed new gun system as 2a73,did the LP-81 in 477 have anything wrong?And by the way,what is the relationship between 2a83 and LP-83?I cant find more information about them.So could you please introduce the thread of 152 smoothbore cannon? Thanks a lot here.

3.What type of FCS did 477 plan for？I think it should have the ability of Hunter-Killer with commander's independent thermal sight,which showed in photos,but I doubt that if the sight in the right of turret can have 360° field of version,because the objects on the turret roof and its slope may disturb the sight.

4.What type of APS did 477 plan for? some pictures in network show that it may be the Arena..but I think it.may not fit the turret shape of 477s.

Thats all what I can not clear up,I will appreciate it if you can give me an answer!

So I just wait for the photos of 477A1 which was redesigned and had three carousels loading system.

Awesome photo!

Did obj.477/195 have any Gun-Launched Missile project which support the 152mm cannon system?

Chinese modern tank development diagram by VTYZCX

in http://zhuangjiacheliang.com

http://zhuangjiacheliang.com/data/attachment/forum/201605/02/165259xzjbjjkzqjet00tz.jpg

Does anyone know or get this document?

【 ''Véhicules blindés et tactiques '' par l'Ingénieur Général Bodin】about France armored vehicles,from a series of France defence books.

I can only find two of them in Scribd,the part of Anti-tank missile and the part of AA Gun.

https://fr.scribd.com/doc/225358343/38606186-COMHART-T10-Armements-Antichars-Missiles-Guides-Et-Non-Guides-France-2008

Why does the tank magazine use carousel ammo storage combined with turret bustle autoloader ? The ammunition in turret bustle seems have no available armor protection.

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Different layouts of Leclerc, that were considered during development. Stolen from Andrey-BT

AS31 - crew in frontal hull, like T-14.

AS12 - 2 crew members are located in low profile turret, similar to Molot/Boxer/Buntar.

AS22 - low profile turret for 2 people, driver and engine are in the front hull, ammorack - in the rear.

Variant with commander in the turret with 360 degr visibility, and drive + gunner in the hull frontal part

Classis Leclerc.

AFAIK they were started by the kpz90/char90 ,the France and German joint project.

But German concept seems only a flat turret leopard2,while the France have prepared a number of innovative concepts.

Hello Lightning, do you have picture from your avatar in larger resolution? Do you also have other pictures and drawings with soviet objects? Can you post them if you have? Thanks!

That's my brief drawing used sketchbooks in mobile,I will send it to you when I go home.

"Объект" is correct

I have some photoes of prototypes of new(late 80's) Leningfad Bureau T-80U design.

Please give your email,im send it for you.

Well, I aways make spelling mistakes..thanks for correction.

The first pic upper part shows the failure rate of equipments' Square Team which were reviewed in front of Tianan men last year and below shows the failure rate of equipment types.Both two forms show that the 99a, 05a and 04a afvs' fault times still higher than other equipments.

The first form index:(from left to right)

tanks; AAV; IFV; IFV(airborne);AT missile launcher; 155 SPG; type 11 wheeled tanks; 4x4 assault cars; 4x4 assault cars (used by armed police); SP-AA Gun; and others are missile system...

the second form index just the types.

The second pic is about the failure rate of parts of 99a. from up to low:

operation system

transmission system

electric system

engine system

other system

suspection system

hydraulic system

I believe it is from this book, but I am not certain of the source.

Thank you！

Some early concepts for Leclerc's turret: