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    Britons are in trouble

    Better than what it seems.
  2. The following is derived from various wanderings, discussions, & tyre kicking, and covers an opinion on the forthcoming Land 400 Phase 3 Request for Tender, and is as per June 2018. General: Phase 2 will significantly shape participation in Phase 3. Costs for the two bidders that weren’t short listed for the Risk Mitigation Activity (GDLS & Elbit Systems) ran into the tens of millions of dollars. Costs for the losing BAE bid could rightly be assessed as double that. Combined with Rheinmetall’s Phase 2-driven “perceived incumbency”, nobody wants to waste money to be a stalking horse on the Commonwealth’s behalf. There is a plausible risk that only Rheinmetall will bid. Reorganisation of infantry sections: When Land 400 was conceived, Australian infantry sections consisted of two fire teams of four. This drove the initial “eight dismounts” requirement that has subsequently been relaxed. Now comprising three fire times of three, one of those teams will be the vehicle crew, the other two will dismount, for a total of six dismounts. Recent operational experience has highlighted the need for temporary attachment of specialist personnel, so a platform that has some spare seating could still count for it. GFE Turrets: One possible tactic that the Commonwealth may seek to use is that of mandating that the Lance Turret, as used on the Phase 2 Boxer CRV, be used as Government Furnished Equipment (that is, purchased from Rheinmetall and provided to suitably configured hulls by competitors). This would simplify the turret training and offer spares commonality across both phases. Perceived savings for “buying in bulk” were (apparently) unable to be realised as Rheinmetall was reluctant to discount its turret. Costs aside, if an offerer has a GFE turret, who owns the systems integration risk? Who does the customer turn to solve potential issues between the turret and the hull when they, the customer, has mandated that particular turret? Commercially, this is a high risk proposition. Unmanned turrets: Only GDLS offered an unmanned/remote turret for Phase 2, the Kongsberg MCT-30, as has been adopted in small numbers (81) by the US Army to meet an immediate operational need. A bias against unmanned turrets is unlikely to manifest itself in Phase 3 due to the likely presence of the PSM Puma IFV. Of course, that’ll likely to open the door to GDLS bidding the ASCOD fitted with Elbit’s optionally manned/unmanned MT-30 turret....should they decide to bid at all. Likely bidders: This brings us to the inevitable list of potential bidders and their platforms. BAE: Unlikely to bid. If they win SEA 5000, that may get them off the bench, as would a requirements set that looks a lot like CV90. In the event that they do bid, the CV90 Mk4 is the most likely platform. GDLS: More likely to bid than BAE, but still waiting to see what the RFT looks like. (Tellingly?) Their ASCODs at Eurosatory we’re painted for upcoming European opportunities, not in the distinctive Australian disruptive pattern. Rheinmetall: likely to offer the Lynx and maybe also the Puma. With the reorganisation of Australian infantry sections (see above) the eight dismounts of the KF41 version of the Lynx are less relevant. Still, the modularity of the KF41 demonstrated at Eurosatory 18 definitely left an impression. PSM: As a JV between KMW & Rheinmetall, Puma may be offered separately (unlikely if the Boxer =\= ARTEC in Australia model is followed). In the event that it is offered separately, its high unit cost, without the associated modularity of Boxer, may be a disadvantage. Also, PSM has no experience with industrial partnerships in Australia: a significant disadvantage. Hanwha Defense Systems: Korea has been a bit “off” Australian defence opportunities, largely due to the cack-handed way in which the cancellation of the K-9/AS-9 was handled in 2012. The AS-9 was viewed as a loss-leader, primarily as Australia has a reputation of being a discerning (aka difficult) customer. If Hanwha bids their K21, it’ll be interesting to watch. Whilst no means exhaustive, the above outlines some less-obvious factors currently at play for the 450-vehicle opportunity that is Land 400 Phase 3.
  3. Boxer CRV with two armour hardnesses: High Hardness Armour HHA500 “for hardness”. Ultra-High Toughness UHT440 “for toughness”.
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    Britons are in trouble

    Nothing the UK does with armour surprises me anymore 😢
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    Britons are in trouble

    Challenger 2 Mark 2? Seriously? UK naming conventions are the worst.
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    Britons are in trouble

    DVD will be interesting. Expecting announcements on the Warrior upgrade, CR2 upgrade, and more progress on AJAX.
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    French flair

    Jebus! Jaguar isn’t little, is it?
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    Australian LAND program

    Australian National Audit Office report into Land 121 Phase 4: Protected Mobility Vehicle Light (Hawkei) https://www.anao.gov.au/work/performance-audit/army-protected-mobility-vehicle-light Somehow we went from a Partner Nation in the Tech Dem phase of JLTV, complete with right-hand-drive prototypes being tested in Australia, to a “locally made” truck (Austrian engine, German transmission, US suspension, Israeli protected module, Israeli BMS, US radios - but locally made).
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    General AFV Thread

    That’s an impressive toilet monitor.
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    Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV

    Yep. Been in a Puma, Bradley, CV9035, Stryker, M113, and Bushmaster - the Lynx KF41 interior is still a mock-up.
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    Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV

    Interior of the troop compartment of the KF41 Napkinpanzer: best protected mobile boardroom:
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    Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV

    This was hiding on the Rheinmetall stand:
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    Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV

    Was told an interesting tidbit from the REME Sergeant accompanying the Apollo. Apparently the hull of the IFV variant of the AJAX will be stretched 450 mm by increasing the between-the-roadwheel spacing.
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    Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV

    Thanks for posting the US eval. Good information there, a good counterpoint to the “just [completely redesigning the entire vehicle] should be pretty straightforward..” opinions sometimes put forward on boards. It’s an insight into the technical jiggery-pokery required for AFV design. And that’s before contractual, sub-contractual, commercial, and intellectual property issues are brought into the equation.
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    Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV

    Haven’t seen anything, but I’ll see what I can see. What is “a thing” is the mandated use of the EOS R150 RWS and Spike 2 as GFE on the Phase 3 vehicle.
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    Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV

    More on the Lance 2.0 mission/missile bay:
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    Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV

    Some close ups of the KF41 Lynx (which looks and feels like a paper panzer): Open driver’s hatch (good luck getting out of that wearing armour): Driver’s hatch, viewer, coax, & the world’s slipperiest glacis: Turret:
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    Scale Models Megathread

    Sometimes modelling means on the road & helping out an OEM:
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    Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV

    The Bareback? Your (presumed) autocorrect has given me a nickname for that contender! Thanks.
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    Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV

    That turret is interesting.
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    Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV

    What they’ve said: “Defence will proceed with seeking a manned turret solution for the vehicles that require a turret to fulfil roles. Defence will engage with the shortlisted tenderers during the Risk Mitigation Activity (RMA) to explore the growth path to a potential future unmanned turret solution.” i read that as evolve your manned turret to unmanned, not replace manned turret with new, different, unmanned turret.
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    Land 400 Phase 3: Australian IFV

    DTR is quoting the RFT, just like I’m doing. Anyone can register on AusTender, and download the 0.5GB document and go through it: https://www.tenders.gov.au/?event=public.atm.show&ATMUUID=F8D62769-EEF1-F99C-78E3ACCDA4927B26
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