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  1. Wiedzmin

    General AFV Thread

    maybe someone have info about addon sight on 61 Mech Ratels?
  2. it's posted by Jon Bernstein Armor Modeling and Preservation Society Social Group on FB
  3. Wiedzmin

    StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)

    australian armor museum?
  4. maybe some german speaking members can help with translation ? as i understand turret was jammed after 90mm HE strike " no hydr. operation possible, turret ball bearing blocked after a short turn. No visible effect on the crew represented by cardboard cylinder. The tank is initially no longer operational."
  5. Wiedzmin

    StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)

    this report give you source for it's claims. you can go to NARA and order research to get all blueprints from souce list. and ? Centurion mantlet have areas 300+mm which also serve as a gun cradle etc, but briths on their schemes show only 152mm as protective thickness soviet report stated that "mantlet-cradle" gives protection only from spall and bullets and says nothing about mantlet 115mm APFSDS resistant. report have sources, this sources are factory blueprints of M60A1 tank, such as: Turret Thickness Ispection Points dwg. 10911647(M60A1) Hull Thickness Ispection Points dwg. 10905702 (M60A1) etc if you want to argue with factory blueprints, well.... good luck to you
  6. Wiedzmin

    StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)

    people don't understand their own measures and physics typical situation for all gamers mantlet get thicker only where it have "claw" for gun trunnion, the rest (and most of) the area simple 110-118mm of casted low hadness steel with holes for MG and optic. gun barrel etc. omitting the fact that getting hit into the area of the trunnions will lead to jamming of the whole mantlet. but who cares... if you take this "research" as basis about "115mm ineffective" you must also take that article says about mantlet - "antispall/bullet armour" instead of choosing the facts that are more convenient for you
  7. Wiedzmin

    StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)

    well, not much, 490 for 12mm plates only to protect from 14.5 and 20mm(and all plates for light AFV used +- same HHS) 370-410 for main plates more or less the same for soviet BTK-1 HHS used on T-80 and other new soviet tank, T-55/62 used 42SM steel with 290-310HB IIRC, US M1 also used HHS etc btw it's funny there are some report about quality of US/UK and FRG plates for APFSDS test, XM735E2 penetrates 150/60 of UK/US plates from 3.4km, and FRG 150/60 only from 500 meters, and one of main reasons - hardness of plates(noted that the germans apparently use plates that more closely represent soviet tanks), it will be interesting to find some day real test of any APDS/APFSDS on any real tank... it's also very importatn what your tank can do after hit, for example Centurion Mk.2 mantlet after hits with 6Pdr will be jammed, after this brits reinforced trunnion pin and now mantlet gets jammed only afted 17 Pdr AP, after that they made resilient mantlet on Mk.8, and for example if 88mm APCBC(real test) hits turret of Centurion on ricochet , some vision block craks, sight etc. T-55 firing BR412B at T-54 can put out of action it without any penetrations, etc there is a very interesting part of non-penetrative tests on tank - force impact on equipment but such reports are almost never found
  8. Wiedzmin

    StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)

    I posted protection levels for this turret earlier, it can withstand some 100mm ap (haven't seen test with 100mm but they tested 90mm)from 1km in +-5 degree arc
  9. Wiedzmin

    StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)

    (30+35)65mm/65 degree HZB 301 370-410HB and up to 490 for 12mm plates,roof HZB20 260-300HB
  10. Wiedzmin

    StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)

    1A3 turret armor btw
  11. Wiedzmin

    StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)

    i guess brits made some wrong calculations(frontal stucture 7 plates for example. not 6) because german report(from which they take this drawings) gives scheme that Yuri posted. ofcourse there can be some variants, but it(drawings) look like same in german source report
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