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  1. Pardus

    The Leopard 2 Thread

    That's the boresight tool, I need official info on the EMES-15 primary sight
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    Does anyone have detailed & sourced specifications for the Leopard 2's EMES-15 sight?
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    Hello Laviduce, Disappointingly the people I were able to talk to when there simply didnt know the information you requested, and taking any measurements was rendered impossible by all the military personnel around. However I found out that there's a tank musuem nearby with a Leopard 2A4 on exhibition that I might be able to get access to and there are likely to be experts on the tank there too.
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    Alright guys, I will be attending something called Ă…ben Hede in Denmark tommorrow where the Leopard 2 will be doing some live exercises and you can walk around the tanks and so forth. If there's anything you guys want me to ask or achieve whilst there just let me know today.
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    Thanks SM_HH, That atleast seem to validate the use of an inner wall, and supposedly with NERA. Would you happen to have information on the thickness of the hull below the sponsons? Narod.ru puts it at 50mm RHA, however are there any measurements to back this up?
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    A closer look from the other side which seems to indicate that there is a inner wall:
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    A close up picture of the rear turret bustle being worked on: Notice the lip formed by the plate overhang, what does this indicate? Is the turret bustle armour really not 90mm thick? or is the particular turret simply missing the inner wall plate at the moment of picture?
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    An illustration of what I believe is likely the armour layout of the Leopard 2's sponsons: Again this is based on the Leopard 2AV and 2K protection scheme as well as the actual protection scheme present on the Leopard 2 at the NBC unit.
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    I think they are the lower mounting points yes, however I still think they might indicate how thick the outer plate is going to be by how much they extend over the sponson floor. And again ofcourse it simply wouldn't make sense not to secure the fuel tanks (a critical component) from smallarms fire, as even 5.56 NATO green tip will penetrate 10mm of armour at 100m, 7.62 NATO AP 15mm, and finally .50 BMG up to 22.2mm of FHA. Now since I seem to recall reading that the Leopard was designed to be immune to 20mm fire from the sides, I believe that indicates at atleast a 40-50mm RHAe protection for the fuel tanks, which could be achieved for example via a 12mm outer high hardness plate + a thicker 30mm one spaced behind it, just like on the 2K and 2AV and seemingly also exactly the type of protection fround on the aircon/filtration system hatch, i.e. a ~12mm outer plate with a ~30mm plate spaced behind it. In summary since the Leopard 2K and 2AV both featured ample amount of spaced armour to protect their fuel cells, and since the NBC hatch on the Leo 2 actually features this same type of spaced protection, I think it's only logical that the production variant followed suit here or even slightly improved upon it for the fuel tank section.
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    Also just noticed the following: Note: I think the six squares at the edge of the left sponson indicate the thickness of the plate here, which to me looks like ~30mm. This also makes the most sense in terms of protecting the fuel tanks from being ruptured by smallarms or HMG fire. To corroborate this theory there seems to be at least that amount of protection on the aircon system hatch:
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    Sounds good Rohr!
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    10mm sponsons?? Are you sure? I mean the fuel cells are right behind it, that would make them vulnerable to be penetrated and ruptured even by regular small arms fire. That can't be right, esp. for a MBT. Looking at the welding lines in real life the sponson sides look like they were at least 30mm thick.
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    Btw, does anyone here possess or know the accurate armour protection of the Leopard 2A4 in these areas?:
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    @Rohrkrepierer I had a look through the report you sent me, however there's something I don't understand, which is that the DM33 penetration performance changes from 470mm to 480mm between these two charts:
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    The Leopard 2 Thread

    Alright, PM me ?
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