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  1. Tank You
    Pardus reacted to Yoshi_E in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    The illustration shows RHAe - not RHA values. RHA being just a block of steel - while RHAe is often a simulated target of special armor.
    Modern rounds are specifically designed to deal better with special armor - something that you cant just calculate.
    As @FORMATOSE pointed out, I dont know if those are the official KMW/RH figures - or their own speculation.
     

    Thanks to more recent pics we know the penetrator is a bit longer than we initially assumed:



     
     
    Here is a better example that talks specifically about a steel target:


     
    650mm@0° at 3km
    750mm@60° at 3km
     
    On an old Bundeswehr slide from 2004 or so they lists DM53 as
     
     
     
     
    If you now also take into account that DM53/63 can bypass ERA such as K5 (~250mm RHAe) by non-initiation - you will arrive at the requirement of LKE II to perforate 1000mm RHAe

     
  2. Tank You
    Pardus got a reaction from Laser Shark in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    Interview of Ukrainian Leopard 2 crews:
    https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/on-the-front-in-ukraine-going-into-battle-in-a-leopard-2-tank-a-9baffb53-1e5b-4a18-8ec5-173d067721af
  3. Tank You
    Pardus got a reaction from Laviduce in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    Weight of the Leopard 2A7DK is apparently 68.6 tons.
  4. Tank You
    Pardus reacted to SH_MM in Active Protection System (APS) for tanks   
    Not a single hardkill APS tested by the German Army for the Leopard 2A7A1 (IIRC they also tested ADS/StrikeShield and Iron Fist) met all requirements. Trophy however was combat proven and thus the lowest risk option.
     
     
  5. Tank You
    Pardus reacted to Yoshi_E in The Leopard 2 Thread   
    For the right one I currently got 0.0707m^3 * 7750kg/m^3 ~= 548kg but the model is not fully tweaked yet.
    Im assuming thats without the bolts and the part attached on the back?
    Thanks for the info.
     
     
     
    Do you, or anyone else, have an idea why there is a 2nd hole below the MG that goes all the way through, even through the armor plate of the mantlet?

     
    On the Inside it looks like this:

    I assumed it would be just the mount for the MG and or a reservoir for the recuperators/intensifiers of the recoil system, but that doesn't seem to be the case?
    Why does it go all the way through, not only the cradle, also through the mantlet armor plate, but not the Mantlet main armor blocks.
     
    Or is it just and access for maintenance hatch will be closed before the gun mantlet armor is installed?
    Just like the MG Its not present in any form on the new 130mm.
     
     
    Edit: Seems to be a manual smoke extractor as far as i could find. 
  6. Tank You
    Pardus got a reaction from LoooSeR in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
  7. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from LoooSeR in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    If showing you the reality of the war in Ukraine is trolling, sure, you can call it that then.
  8. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from LoooSeR in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    You think people posting laughing emojis at the war crimes committed by the VDV, and videos calling Zelensky evil, are mature? 
     
     
     
  9. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from Cobras in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    Sure thing buddy, I'm so pro war that I dare condemn Putin for invading a sovereign democratic country (twice!) 
     
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60675599
  10. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from Cobras in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    If showing you the reality of the war in Ukraine is trolling, sure, you can call it that then.
  11. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from Cobras in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    You think people posting laughing emojis at the war crimes committed by the VDV, and videos calling Zelensky evil, are mature? 
     
     
     
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  13. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from RobertV in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    If showing you the reality of the war in Ukraine is trolling, sure, you can call it that then.
  14. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from RobertV in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    Sure thing buddy, I'm so pro war that I dare condemn Putin for invading a sovereign democratic country (twice!) 
     
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60675599
  15. Funny
    Pardus reacted to Jeeps_Guns_Tanks in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    Nah, he's just the brain dead target audience for the pro global war propaganda.
  16. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from RobertV in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    You think people posting laughing emojis at the war crimes committed by the VDV, and videos calling Zelensky evil, are mature? 
     
     
     
  17. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from LoooSeR in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    As suspected the invasion is failing hard (it's a bloody shambles to be frank), and meanwhile the Russian economy is falling off a cliff and the anti war sentiment of the average Russian (but also the Oligarchs) is growing by the day.  It's becoming more and more obvious that the days of the little madman war criminal are numbered, and it's all by his own doing. 
     
    Slava Ukraini! And a prayer of hope that one day the Russian people will be free of corrupt dictatorships, and become part of the free west.
     
     
  18. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from RobertV in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    As suspected the invasion is failing hard (it's a bloody shambles to be frank), and meanwhile the Russian economy is falling off a cliff and the anti war sentiment of the average Russian (but also the Oligarchs) is growing by the day.  It's becoming more and more obvious that the days of the little madman war criminal are numbered, and it's all by his own doing. 
     
    Slava Ukraini! And a prayer of hope that one day the Russian people will be free of corrupt dictatorships, and become part of the free west.
     
     
  19. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from Dead Ed in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    As suspected the invasion is failing hard (it's a bloody shambles to be frank), and meanwhile the Russian economy is falling off a cliff and the anti war sentiment of the average Russian (but also the Oligarchs) is growing by the day.  It's becoming more and more obvious that the days of the little madman war criminal are numbered, and it's all by his own doing. 
     
    Slava Ukraini! And a prayer of hope that one day the Russian people will be free of corrupt dictatorships, and become part of the free west.
     
     
  20. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from CrappyHead in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    As suspected the invasion is failing hard (it's a bloody shambles to be frank), and meanwhile the Russian economy is falling off a cliff and the anti war sentiment of the average Russian (but also the Oligarchs) is growing by the day.  It's becoming more and more obvious that the days of the little madman war criminal are numbered, and it's all by his own doing. 
     
    Slava Ukraini! And a prayer of hope that one day the Russian people will be free of corrupt dictatorships, and become part of the free west.
     
     
  21. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from Cobras in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    As suspected the invasion is failing hard (it's a bloody shambles to be frank), and meanwhile the Russian economy is falling off a cliff and the anti war sentiment of the average Russian (but also the Oligarchs) is growing by the day.  It's becoming more and more obvious that the days of the little madman war criminal are numbered, and it's all by his own doing. 
     
    Slava Ukraini! And a prayer of hope that one day the Russian people will be free of corrupt dictatorships, and become part of the free west.
     
     
  22. Funny
    Pardus reacted to Laviduce in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    https://twitter.com/Angelo4justice3/status/1498432863053783043?s=20&t=fJYfe2pMNnau99pCIMVPtw
     
     
  23. Metal
    Pardus got a reaction from watch_your_fire in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    There's a clear cut difference between bringing down dictatorships and terrorist states, versus invading a democratic country.
     
    But I guess your forum emblem explains it all. The Cold War is over, the genocidal Soviet Union fell, trying to bring it back is the definition of insanity and backwards thinking. 
     
  24. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from Sturgeon in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    No, it's sad how you guys clearly are swallowing up Putin's propoganda and lies of "denazification" (esp. when he's the one actively hiring Nazis to fight for him. Read: WAGNER GROUP), and are justifying the invasion of a democratic state and the murder of innocents, and for what? So you can create a new puppet state? Thank god the western world is looking at Russia with disgust.
     
    Even more sad, if you as a Russian suddenly become wiser and realize how wrong this war is, and then decide you want to demonstrate against it, you'll be arrested (and likely physically mistreated). That's the price you pay for living in a dictatorship where there is no freedom of press or speech.   
     
    Only thing I can think of which beats this is when a few (thankfully very few) people living in the west, enjoying all the freedom that comes with that, out of sheer ignorance start supporting this war. That is truly mindblowing.
  25. Funny
    Pardus got a reaction from RobertV in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    About time.
     
    The little mad man in the east needs to go, and any supplies that will help make the war in Ukraine untennable for his forces and the general Russian public is the first step in that direction. 
     
     
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