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Also, in the picture with the M256 there are two unicorns hiding at the very top behind the GBU-28 Paveway (which, as we know, was partially built out of decommissioned 203mm howitzer barrels from the now-retired M110A2 - hence its presence in the room) and the orange scissor lift:
 
- Either the 58-caliber XM282 or the 39-caliber XM283 (based on the M198's M199) that were trialed in 1985 for the Howitzer Improvement Program (HIP); there were three guns proposed as part of the Advanced Armament System (AAS): the XM282, the XM283 (both 282 and 283 were fitted onto five M109A3E3 testbeds) and the XM284 (fitted onto four M109A3E2 testbeds). They eventually selected the XM284 for what ultimately became the M109A5. The howitzer gun on this picture looks like the XM283, but with the barrel length, it's more like a L58 XM282 (which had a chamber volume of 27.8L/1,700 cubic inches and could lob M549A1 HERA projectiles up to 45km with the XM224 propellant charge). Also note that they also cut a XM282's barrel down to 52 calibers to test liquid propellants; that L52 could also be the one seen here.
 
- Right next to it is the L56 XM297 (chamber volume of 1,400 cubic inches) that was installed on the Crusader (which also, at one point, dabbled with liquid props before switching back to solid MACS propellant charges). Easily recognizable with its pepperpot muzzle brake.

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More an idea than a package. The "proposal" so far is a word salad combined with 5 hours worth of beginner CAD work on a partial 3d scan of a Leo 1, hardly serious. 

The Centauro and Type 16 MCV are lower profile wheeled gun carriers.
Even then there are practical limits, but both look substantially less godawful than this.

Kind of sort of a Korean tank but also not really. The Chieftain posted a few pictures this past weekend of an interesting proposal by AAI to the South Koreans for the ROKIT program. As with everything AAI there's nothing online that I could find outside of what The Chieftain posted so I'm not sure of any details beyond what his Facebook post says. I'll keep looking for info but I'm doubtful I'll find anything online.
Facebook post text:
 

 

Look at that barrel wobble, that's a mockup.

The VPN TEST person makes 3d models of militaria.
None of them are guaranteed to be accurate to any extent.
I'd also note that such a proposed dual-elevation-axis approach will inevitably be borderline impossible to stabilize on at least one of the elevation axes if not both.

The VPN TEST person makes 3d models of militaria.
None of them are guaranteed to be accurate to any extent.
I'd also note that such a proposed dual-elevation-axis approach will inevitably be borderline impossible to stabilize on at least one of the elevation axes if not both.

The ASRAAM missile is another great example.

The ASRAAM missile is another great example.

I find this another classic example of someone trying real hard to come up with a name and not thinking for two seconds about how Americans are likely to pronounce it.

https://below-the-turret-ring.com/history/german-experimental-armor-development-ii-results-of-trial-program-16-21-and-22/

Funny way to say Centurion, but perhaps one which is more correct than it deserves to be.

Also, given that there's a war going on, long term concerns about spares availability is at best a second order concern, and at worst of only academic interest.

While I'm sure all of this is great fun I'm gonna put on my "responsible adult" hat and ask y'all to please calm down a little and play nice. 
 
-please refrain from petty insults which are not workplace-suitable 
-please refrain from challenging the all-powerful dictator and/or mod team to a pissing match.
-If you are offended, don't let the internet sharks smell blood.
 
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The Trophy brochure available online mentions "significant" elevation angles.
How close to vertical "significant" means is anybody's guess.
There's nothing kinematically preventing missiles like Javelin from diving vertically (other than perhaps a reduction in range), and it may even be a software-defined parameter, so it's not exactly a question answerable by open sources.

I think my sense of humor might be shit. 

I've got to agree with Ram on the subject of the Strykers. The DVH A1 is basically an all new vehicle, but that's the Army realizing that the requirements they set and therefore the vehicle they got isn't what they actually needed, not the vehicle as delivered being a shitshow and not working.

I've got to agree with Ram on the subject of the Strykers. The DVH A1 is basically an all new vehicle, but that's the Army realizing that the requirements they set and therefore the vehicle they got isn't what they actually needed, not the vehicle as delivered being a shitshow and not working.

I've got to agree with Ram on the subject of the Strykers. The DVH A1 is basically an all new vehicle, but that's the Army realizing that the requirements they set and therefore the vehicle they got isn't what they actually needed, not the vehicle as delivered being a shitshow and not working.

Wanted to do this post 2 days ago after digesting new events, but was too exhausted after workshifts to do effortposting, i was coming back to home during night time. My thoughts on this war, noise surrounding it, strategical implications and expectations, for those who care.
 
 
What i think.
   After 2017 it was obvious Ukraine will not do anything from Minsk agreements as Ukr politicians were publicly shitting on them and were doing nothing to make it real. DPR and LPR fate became obvious - they are not wanted in Ukraine. Putin's decision to recognize republics was constatations of situation. I expected thing to go slowly but deliberatly towards something i will describe later. But events went in very different way from what i thought would happen. Now, i'm not going to spit in the back of our soldiers executing orders, as Army should be this way, but politicians and other higher ups are free game im my eyes.
 
   Decision to start a full scale war in my opinion was stupidiest thing our political leadership have done in past 22 years. I'm not sure why or what triggered it, but looks like a plan was being worked on for long time, probably even before last year. Putin usually was carefull, but this is rackless decision.
   Our PR can scream about this operation being against nazis and nationalists, but the fact is this war is against Ukraine and everyone inside of it, as effects of war are going to touch nearly everyone who lives inside directly or indirectly.
 
   I don't have hard feelings about it, as i "burned down" during 2015, but this was wrong call. Not because war is bad, but because net result is not going to be what i would like to see.
 
 
   Good vs Evil
   Now, in medias narrative is that Good Democratical Ukraine is fighting Evil Russian dictatorship, in my view both states are dogshit.
 
   Ukraine is highly corrupted country that was run by oligarchs before coup in 2014 and now sort of run by oligarchs together by nationalists with piece of sovereignty outsorced to US foreigh policy makers, a country that effectively suppressed opposition in 2015-16 and where you have less rights than even in Russia, if you are not following "main course". One time per few years population needs to go to specific places where they instal another politicain as a leader who will became highly unpopular by the end of his term.
 
   Russia is highly corrupted country that was run by oligarchs before Putin and now sort of run by oligarchs together with Putin and his "clan", a country that sort of suppressed opposition in 2000s and where you have some rights, but there are workarounds, if you really want to. One time per few years population needs to go to specific places where we approve prolongation of power of our leader.
 
   Personally, i fail to see who is here an actual good guy. Both, in grand scheme of things, are kind of assholes. Maybe reason for people far away to see this conflict differently than war between Azerbaijan and Armenia is mix of agressor vs defender and Goliath vs David situation, and the fact that what they see on videos is a country and people more relatable than some Middle Eastern Arabs that are getting democracy delivered to their homes. But that is how i see it.
 
 
   Why this war is in such way it is (copy pasted from Discord): 
 
   I think we started this war with soft boxing gloves on, for some fucking reason. Maybe they expected less resistance, which may show how much attention they gave to situation on Donbass and how well they took into account 8 years of nationalistic propaganda and having armed conflict in 2.5 regions.
 
   Note absolutely no videos coming from our MoD, nothing about combat. Also note how for several days we used no artillery, very limited cruise missile strikes and no airstrikes (like in Syria with 100+ sorties per day from small base in Hmeimym). All this led to major units not being destroyed, equipment partially left in working condition. Internet was not turned off, mobile phones working. They did jack shit on this front. They did half measures and got half results.
 
   Thanks to that UAF was not destroyed. Convoy routes left undefended. No use of CAS, no proper AA coverage. Big units in bypassed cities left without serious blocking formations. They can orginise by using just mobiles phones. Thanks to ability to film and upload videos to the internet, net is now flooded with videos of Russian equipment destroyed and soldiers killed. Uplifting material for other side. All this instead of getting moral collapse of enemy faster and destruction and murder to minimun turned 180. Ukrainians are fighting back harder that what was anticipated is my expectation.
 
   Another boggus decision was using such small number of forces for operation. I saw claims of ~50k in initial phase. 100k is possibly going to be total number of forces. Ukraine is 40+ mln country. Not sure how they will hold it. Even with Rosgvardia there is not enough people to hold whole country.
 
   In the end results will be same on grand scale, but path to that result will be bloodier and longer. I guess thats why Putin fired that big star commander. But i guess they had plan B for bloodier route, which is why we now see MRLS used to bombard enemy.
 
   You can't "half-fight" the war, trying to look friendly on tv. What was supposed to be public flogging of Ukraine starts to be 1939 Soviet war with Finland, where USSR technically won, but Germans, looking at how it was won, thought Red Army was umm.. "incompetent" and decision to invade USSR was taken with taking into account poor results of that war. 
 
 
   Expectations, future
   After declaration of recognition of republics i thought we will start to help rebels in taking back 2 oblast', and this will be the end of hot-ish phase of conflict in Donbass region after quick strike against main forces of UAF in this region (which are most of their forces) and enforcing some sort of political comma in a conflict and moving to next phase.
 
   Reality went in different direction.
   I suspect this war will continue for a week (optimistically), 2-3 weeks if Russian command will not unfuck their plans, or turn into strange military stalment for a month or 2 when most of Ukraine is going to be technically captured, but vast territories and many towns/villages will not have any occupation forces to keep an order, so motivated people will have space to continue strategically unorginised conflict until we will pump necessary amount of internal troops to put it down enough for law enforcements to handle situation.  
 
   After that expect new government, neutral status and Russian troops leaving, with scars of stupidity of leadership. And after some time - nationalists will rise, again, maybe even at bigger scale. Reason - they were screaming about Russian invasion for 8 years and now it is a reality. Their voice was heard by people in Ukraine before, but and now it have big and firm foundation to stand on thanks to this war happening.
 

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Ok so apparently there was a bit of an oopsie in the settings which allowed guests (without registration) to not only view but also post in this subforum specifically.
Should be fixed now, so we only get the regular spambots and not this special kind.