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  1. Well, thread title is pretty obvious, It's a continuation of the original HAV thread without certain shitstains ruining it, post away.
  2. WoT v WT effort-thread

    Lolol Physics. https://i.imgur.com/QzpZOBK.mp4
  3. Tanks guns and ammunition.

    Keep in mind *most* but not all of those rounds are 1st or 2nd generation, the PLA separates 105mm and 125mm ammunition currently into 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation classifications.
  5. If you're referring to Andrei's death wave torpedo, that "could" be something like it I guess, but this was back in the 50s-60s when Hydrogen Bombs were first discovered. It was called the T-15 and, while it was supposed to be carried on the outside of the delivery submarine due to the massive projected size (1500mm in Diameter), that's probably not it.
  6. I don't know, Andrei Sakharov did once propose putting the warhead of the Tsar Bomba in a torpedo in the very early 60's before he turned into an activist, the idea being to clear a naval base or an area of a coastal city with a tsunami before an amphibious landing. As far I know the idea just stayed on paper though.
  7. General AFV Thread

    They do offer armor upgrades actually. (As well as some other newer options that didn't exist at the time the VT4 just came out.) Edit: not sure if it's the exact package as used on the VT5, but extra passive and ERA for the sides and other areas is now offered for the VT4 design to clairify.
  8. Note: I decided I'll make a separate thread about Taiwan at a later date so it's less cluttered. So yeah, I made a vehicle and vehicle weapons thread, might aswell make a small arms thread dedicated to the PLA too, while the focus is on the newest and upcoming generation, I may add some older designs when I feel like it. 11/28/14 Made some slight updates after receiving new information. So, let's start off with the 5.8x42mm round, which as you probably know, is the latest round issued to front line troops and, while it's in essence a SCHV round, Olifant and I have decided is supposed to act like a GPC in the PLA's doctrine (why GPC advocates think a SCHV is completely incapable of being a GPC is a mystery.) How does it perform? Well, This 6mm projectile (Sorry Olifant, I had to do it!) has 2 main variants, the "Short" standard 72 grain round, the DBP-10, which replaced the older, lighter 64 grain DBP-97/95 rounds in service and will eventually replace the DBP-88. (see below) It features a "special hard" H90 double copper/brass layered steel cored gliding metal jacket, which is very hard by bullet jacket standards and allows it to stay together under high stress, a hard cast lead-antimony fused core and an improved sub caliber hardened tool steel penetrator superior to that from the 87 and 95, the core is approximately 4mm wide which combine to give this round excellent armor/material penetration (12+mm RHA at 300mm, compared to 10mm in the older series) and "barrier blind" characteristics. Because of several aerodynamic improvements over the older 87 and 95 series, This is also a quite accurate round with a flat trajectory and excellent energy retention over long distances. It's also worth noting that, because the pressure is significantly increased in the DBP-10 compared to the older rounds from 42,000 psi to 58,000-60,000 psi, it maintains It's rather impressive velocity of 3,000-3,050 feet per second from standard service rifles (18.5 inch barrel and 20.5 inch respectively) despite the heavier round. Giving it an overall muzzle energy of around 1,500 ft/lbs or just over 2,000 joules. for comparison, the 5.56x45mm M855A1 weighing 62 grains gets 2,970 feet per second from a 14.5 inch M4A1 barrel for 1215 ft/lbs or around 1650 joules (I Don't know how fast it travels from the M16 unfortunately), and the 5.45x39mm 7N22 from a 16.5 inch AK-74M barrel achieves 3,000 feet per second, for 1140 ft lbs or around 1550 joules (math is rounded mind you, I'm lazy), so while the 5.8x42mm does get slightly higher raw performance then It's 2 main counterparts as advertised, which is helped by the longer barrel lengths used by the PLA's service weapons, It's not a massive advantage really. And, while the DBP-10 does have alot going for it, it does also have it's flaws, the most prominent being that the design that gives it excellent material penetration and barrier blind ability means it doesn't tend to shatter like other high velocity rounds upon hitting softer flesh, usually ice picking right through a target leaving an exit hole only slightly larger then the entrance, the DBP-10 is noted to have slightly better terminal effectiveness then the 87 and 95 (partially due to the longer, more tail heavy bullet being more likely to yaw/causing a bigger wound channel when it does in soft flesh and when shattering bone), though this wasn't a massive priority in the design. And the "Long" Heavy round meant for MGs and Sniper/DM Rifles, the DBP-88. This 77 grain projectile can't be used in the standard QBZ-95 rifle, carbine, or the QBZ-03 rifle due to the fact it's about 6mm longer then the standard projectile on account of the extended tool steel penetrator that starts in the nose as opposed to the base like the DBP-87 and 95, however, this heavy, long bullet is perfect for sharpshooters and machine guns that can suppress from far away, as the bullet offers even better energy retention, flatter trajectory, very good accuracy, and retains it's penetration power quite well compared to the DBP-87 and 95, being able to still punch through 3-4mm of RHA at 1km (may not sound like much, but for a small round that's pretty good.) this particular version is set to be scrapped as the PLA wants ammo standardization between all weapons, However, There's some evidence that a dedicated "Match Grade" round will be made for 5.8mm DMRs and Sniper rifles, previously thought to be an Ap round but that's no longer believed to be the case. Updates: I've found some new documentation that surprisingly suggests the DBP-10 isn't just a compromise round between the DBP-95 and DBP-88, but actually outperforms it in basically every category, almost assuring the DBP-88 will infact be retired as planned/ First off, the main service rifle, the QBZ-95-1, aka the best Bullpup style AR.ever. QBZ-95-1 Rifle and QBZ-95G Carbine QBZ-97 Export model with a flat top kit. (note the STANAG mag well and how much deeper it runs.) Actual FTU kit installed on older QBZ-95. With various accessories. (a vertical and angled foregrip also exists but isn't shown here.) So yeah, bow down inferior bullpup rifles to your clear overlord, the QBZ-95-1 is, as you may have guessed from the name, an improvement from the older QBZ-95 first seen in 2010, mainly addressing feedback regarding ergonomic comfort and controls, aswell as some other improvements like a thicker barrel with an improved muzzle brake,this rifle will rule you, it has plenty of accessories for almost any mission yet keeps modularity to a reasonable level, is very reliable and quite durable, pretty accurate (not amazing, but for a service rifle its quite decent) while also featuring light recoil due to it's well made recoil buffering system, and is quite light and rather spacious, and somewhat simple, however easy to use iron sights. The Carbine variant is mostly the same, however it does fire notably faster under the same circumstances as the full size rifle, one oddity however is that the front handguard is so short on the carbine variant it actually has nowhere to mount the 35mm grenade launcher or bayonet the full sized rifle can. Specifications to sperg over Caliber - 5.8x42mm DBP-10 (5.56x45mm using STANAGs in the QBZ-97 export variants) Official rate of fire - 650-750 rpm for older variants, 700-750 for QBZ-95-1 on fully automatic. (800-900 rpm for QBZ-95G) Action - Gas operated, rotating bolt with short stroke piston. Fire modes - Semi automatic - 3 round burst (optional) - fully automatic. Magazine capacity - 30 round box magazine Barrel Length - 20.5" (14.5" for QBZ-95G) Overall length - 745mm (610mm for QBZ-95G) Weight - 3.00 kg (6.6 lbs) (2.7/6.0 lbs for QBZ-95G) Unchambered with an empty magazine inserted. Effective Range - 600m point targets (400m for QBZ-95G) Note to the above, I made a mistake on the weights and quoted the older versions which are heavier, it's been corrected. ------ I'll add content as I feel like doing so. Be sure to check my other topics covering other branches of the PLA http://sturgeonshouse.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/80-the-plan-present-and-future-or-the-rapid-modernization-of-the-chinese-navy-and-marines/- Regarding the Navy, Marines, and Weapons used by them and also land based anti ship defense systems. http://sturgeonshouse.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/10-vehicles-of-the-pla-or-glorious-fear-mongering-about-china-over-wars-that-will-probably-not-happen-now-with-content/- Regarding land based vehicles, armor, and weapon systems http://sturgeonshouse.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/87-the-plaaf-and-airborne-a-look-at-the-past-present-and-the-future/- Regarding the PLAAF Aircraft and weapon systems, helicopters, and the Airborne.
  9. So, basic introduction, to start off, we'll go with the latest backbone of the PLA Ground forces' Armored divisions, the ZTZ-96 G/A Basic specs. Crew: 3 Weight: 42-45 tonnes depending on equipment and addon armor/era. Power plant: 1,000 hp liquid cooled Diesel engine Speed: 65 km/h on roads 45 km/h off road Range: 400km without external tanks Armament: 125mm L/48 main gun with autoloader similar to the Soviet 2A46 (8 rounds per minute rof), ATGM capable, based on Russian Refleks-M missile, also has HEI-FRAG, HEAT, and APFSDS ammunition choices, W-85 12.7mm cupola machine gun (not pictured in this photo), 7.62mm coaxial machine gun. Wow, such sharp looking, very armor. Capability wise, this tank was recently pitted against some modern T-72B variants in a Russian tank Biathalon, and while it was deemed better in Armor, Armament, and Electronics, it lost out in mobility due to the underpowered engine, this killed all 730 and 780 hp engines in other ZTZ-96 G/As for the 1,000 hp engine. One interesting note: the boxes on the side actually contain equipment that interferes with the targetting systems of SACLOS missiles, aswell as laser designators, rangefinders and guidance systems, these can be seen when the tank is viewed from above. ----- The heavier, far stronger pride of the ground forces. ZTZ-99 (A2 variant pictured.) Crew: 3 Weight: 54-60 tonnes depending on variant Powerplant: 1,500 hp turbo charged liquid cooled diesel engine Speed: 80 km/h on roads, 60 km/h off road Range: 600km without external tanks. Armament: ZPT98 125mm L/52 autloaded gun with 8 rounds/minute rate of fire (some sources quote later variants at 11 rounds per minute), higher pressure tolerances, redesigned autoloader and other improvements, this allows it to fire improved ammunition such as far more deadly APFSDS then other 125mm autoloaded gun platforms in the PLA's inventory, it can still fire all other types of rounds aswell, W-85 12.7mm cupola machine gun, 7.62mm coaxial machine gun. Armor: While the exact thickness and composition isn't known, It's known from cutaway photos and some are pubically released information to have a hard spall liner as many other tanks these days, the actual armor composition itself are plates of high strength/toughness maraging steel sandwiching materials such as high hardness Aluminum oxides, aswell as layers of Graphene and unknown materials from there (likely something very dense), the boxes on the side of the turret and on the pike nose on the front are likely addon ceramic armor as opposed to ERA as originally believed and may be hollow to act as spaced armed, aside from the physical armor package, the tank also features ERA, NERA, and active defense systems that jam or alter the trajectory of various types of guided projectiles. So, this is the actual "elite" tank of the PLA to supplement the cheaper 96's, Originally it started out with a modest $2,500.000 production cost, however, as time grew on and they kept advancing it to the lastest standards of a top tier MBT, that sort of spiraled out of control a bit, coupled with the fact that the PLA ground forces don't get the same funding as the PLAAF and the PLAN, and the result was that, while the 99A2 has turned out to be a beast in it's own right, it simply isn't feasible price wise to give every tank crew a Type 99A2, however this is probably one of the most underrated 3rd generation MBTs as it's rarely talked about and theres a fuck ton of misinformation about it (mainly that it's a clone of the T-72/T-80 which is completely wrong) and well, it's goddamn pretty, and that counts for alot. Be sure to check my other topics covering other branches of the PLA http://sturgeonshouse.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/80-the-plan-present-and-future-or-the-rapid-modernization-of-the-chinese-navy-and-marines/- Regarding the Navy, Marines, and Weapons used by them and also land based anti ship defense systems. http://sturgeonshouse.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/71-the-future-of-pla-bullit-spitting-devices-powerful-chinese-weapons-and-units-thread/ - Regarding Infantry, small arms, and infantry support weapons. http://sturgeonshouse.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/87-the-plaaf-and-airborne-a-look-at-the-past-present-and-the-future/- Regarding the PLAAF Aircraft and weapon systems, helicopters, and the Airborne. A special thank you. I'd like to personally honor a few posters who have aided me and provided very solid data and posting in this thread, without them this thread and the other PLA related threads would be far less interesting. These should be the first people in here to ask about something. In no particular order. JimZhangZhang, Lightning, Akula_941, and U-47. And of course LoooSeR for keeping content in this thread when I wasn't able to.
  10. HAHA, We have outwitted dirty Putin tactics by simply calling them what the designation sort of looks like! American (and Seafood everywhere) wins again!
  11. That's the thing, I don't actually know why it was made. And yeah, the receiver and barrel are surely significantly beefier than on the QJY88, you can tell just by looking at it. (I'm guessing because it's harder to fuck with a co-axial or other vehicle location mounted machine gun if it overheats or some shit than an infantry served one.)
  12. The Shipwreck News Thread

    Well you see it's not our coast so there's no reason to care good sir.
  13. Greatest things in life. 1. Hailing Satan 2. Stealing post content from Akula. Solenoid fired 5.8mm machine gun.
  14. Can confirm, new pistol is really good if you're not dirt poor ingame. It's still not going to do much to "FORT" (clearly not Ratnik) armor ingame, but it blasts right through Kiver and PACA.
  15. General AFV Thread

    How are Israelis so good at the art of flipping over Tanks and other AFVs? It honestly baffles me.
  16. To be fair to the designers, it does seem like a perfectly thought out design for any countries that do have such strict regulations. I could see it being viable, though re zeroing the scope after every dismount would be a bitch.
  17. Surprisingly it looks pretty good, I like how it's not perfect because a lot of video games make thermal scopes absolutely perfect when, unless you spend an absolute fuck load on one (I have one for my M300 that was over $20,000, It's basically military grade and incredibly good but, even then not magical arcade video game bullshit good), they're not even close to how they're portrayed in video games. Like how some won't even take into account background interference/surrounding object temperature or various atmospheric conditions. They've said they're not finished with the Thermal scope yet since they need to fuck with the game engine first to get it 100% accurate but, I'll wait and see how that turns out when it happens.
  18. If said custom work was done for someone really famous and they (or their family after they die) sell it afterwards? ......realistically speaking though, no.
  19. The Aglockalypse

    Well the difference is I actually have experience in USPSA/ISPC and IPDA unlike most of the people that shit talk big like that who have never entered a competition in their life. Hell, I have an entire section in my walk in safe dedicated to nothing but competition pieces.
  20. The Aglockalypse

    Note that for the record, I'm not not one of the hypocritical fanboys of other polymer framed, striker fired handguns that think their copy of a Glock is just so much better for.....exactly no reason other than *brand dicksucking here*, hell, I own 2 Glocks and had 2 prior to now, and tried many of their imitators, the Walther PPQ M2 was probably my favorite but even then, I ultimately went back to a G17 (traded in a G22 to get one before that since I didn't need it.) and you'll notice I usually go for full size guns and not the "compact" G19 size frames and clones because, as this will be important for why I like the P-10C better, I have big fucking hands and this often affects my gun choices. (I can do the Hollywood/video game bullshit dual wield Desert Eagle comfortably for example.....my accuracy isn't the best, but I can do it.) That being said, let's get onto why the P-10C. First off, going to have to disagree with Sturgeon on the trigger, anyone who's paid attention to my posts here knows I have annoyingly high standards of triggers and sights and, normally when it comes to triggers on striker fired guns, assuming we're not referring to after market mods, the P-10C is pretty much the first trigger on a striker fired Glock style tongue safety trigger that I find noticeably better, from the pull weight to the reset to travel distance, It's just a very clean trigger for a striker fired gun, and, for reference, for other striker fired polymer guns to compare to a Glock, I've tried heavily or owned: Walther PPQ M2 (I'd rate the trigger as slightly better but not massively, at least not by the margin the P-10C is.) S&W M&P (Haven't got to use many of the newer 2.0 models which have a different trigger setup, but the 1.0 triggers are horrid and this was almost the single biggest turning point on why I never bought one over a Glock.) SIG P320 (Owned one before it was cool, overall worse trigger bar none, that wasn't the only reason I traded it in though.) H&K VP9 (Yet another case of H&K fanboys overhyping the shit out of anything with 2 red letters on it, touted as the greatest thing to happen to striker fired guns ever, is not noticeably better than a Glock in any way aside from some arguable minor ergonomic changes despite costing more.) FN USA FNS (about the same, nothing special but not a bad alternative by any means, haven't tried the newer 509. On an unrelated note, I'd still recommend a Glock because FNH/FN USA charge fucking murder for new magazines and other gear.) STEEEEER M9-A1 (The *other* Austrian Striker fired polymer framed handgun, these are really nice actually and a steal for the price, better sights and great ergos for sure, as for the trigger I feel they're about even.) Canik....anything (LOL, seriously, trigger issues are only the beginning, don't buy anything from them, their shit is horrid and all their good reviews were from already anti Glock fanboys who were paid off in gun mags basically.) There's probably more I'm forgetting or simply don't want to bother talking about, but you get the Idea. Second is the front cocking serrations, this doesn't need me to go into much, It's a roughly G19 length slide and I have gorilla hands so that's really useful to me, It's also a very simple thing to do. The grip angle and the grip shape, along with the space in general I have for my hand from below the slide to the very bottom of the grip just fits me quite a bit better for my freakishly large hands, the P-10C also has a slightly roomier trigger guard which is good for when it's fucking cold out and I'm wearing gloves. Lastly, they have an MSRP of only $500, making them an absolute steal, street price is lower obviously, but, you won't have a chance to get one if you see it for long because they're going fast right now. Originally, I would've recommended the Steyr M9-A1 or L9-A1 series as "the Polymer framed, Striker fired pistol with no manual safety you should get if you absolutely hate Glock for no real reason at all.", the P-10C moved the other Austrian offering down to 2nd however (the M9-A1 series has better sights however, though pretty much all stock sights on pistols and rifles alike are dogshit and should be the first thing you change.). they're also going to be offering a 12 shot .40 S&W version at some point indicated by the owners manual to try and grab at the balls of the G23 market, so look forward to that. you said you're interested in 2 gun, in USPSA/IPSC, Open Major division has a 10mm minimum caliber requirement so guns for this bracket are pretty much always chambered in .40 S&W as said cartridge is literally just a 10mm Auto casing cut down by 3mm and set to a lower approved pressure rating. .....Though to be fair, if you ever get really serious into IPSC, chances are you won't be using a striker fired, polymer framed gun. You know, I know it's a really arrogant thing to say but, assume they actually participate in the event and don't just host it, I legit think I can beat Ian and Karl in a 2 gun match.
  21. General news thread

    Since I was asked my thoughts on this despite saying I don't care about this part if the forum, I'll just say that... ...while the TS incident did undeniably happen regrettably, this article comes off as sensationalist bullshit honestly and 10,000 out of nowhere is total bs when foreign reporters who were, you know, actally there at the time estimated 500-1000. The other half reads like cartoon villain evil shit that doesnt logically make sense for various reasons But, as we've seen with places like the former USSR/Russia, something doesn't need to be proven true for people to believe they = bad! You wanted my opinion when I stay stop paging me to this forum? You got it.
  22. The Aglockalypse

    Pretty much every P-10C I've used (or bought) has worked perfectly fine for me, It's like the one G19 wannabe that actually feels noticeably better than a G19 in quite a few areas to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  23. Well, to put things simply, I'm glad to finally get this thread, as this will mark me being able to cover all aspects of the PLA in detail and to link them all up content wise, so away we go! Well, this thread will obviously deal about the 1 area that hasn't been covered yet, which is of course the Air Force and Airborne, a bit into the past, and most the present and future, without further ago, I'd like to start off with aircraft designs, with a majority focus on local designs, without further ado, lets begin shall we? The current primary air-to-air fighter - The J-10B Full fuel load plus various weapons. Underside shot with x1 extra fuel tank and loaded with ordnance. Back shot showing the use of rear mounting space. Basically, people are speculating for days how good the J-20 and J31 will be, what roles they'll fill, how much of a threat they'll be, etc etc, that's all well and good, but regardless, for the time being, the J-10B is the backbone of the PLAAF's Multirole fighter divisions. While the J-10B is certainly an older design, It is by consequence one that's had more production time and time to come out with further updates and big fixing, which has resulted in a very solid all around design. As for the design itself, It's a single engine, single seat (not counting trainer variants) design that uses a tailless canard delta design, though a large delta wing is mounted towards the rear of the fuselage with an accompanying pair of canards mounted directly below and slightly behind the cockpit. the design is made from various, fairly rare light weight, high strength metal alloys and composite arrays which, while increasing the cost somewhat, gives it a light weight frame without sacrificing strength or toughness. Also, due to the delta-canard style airframe design and the unstable airframe (I just said colli's favorite phrase next to "nuclear fusion"), It's also equipped with a redundant fly by wire system that prevent the very tight turn capable design from literally disabling or destroying itself at high speeds. The frame itself comes by default with up to 11 hard points, however this can be increased to up to 15 when the mission requires it, as for the Avionics, while no huge specifics are known about it, It has 3 LCD multi function displays linked to a helmet mounted sight featuring a holographic heads up display and visual targeting. During the switch from the A to B variant, the nose mounted radar has been switched to an improved AESA design, which are all the rage in the PLA (and other militaries) right now. and a far more powerful radar unit in itself at that. Other improvements from the A to B include: a more powerful, reliable engine variant, radar absorbent material applied throughout the aircraft aswell as cutting off some sharp edges for smoothed out angles, an Electronic warfare and EMP package, a divertless supersonic inlet, and IRST sensor to give more options on tracking targets, a MAW, RAM coated Canopy, and a completely replaced set of internal electronics with a new generation of solid state electronics. So basically, the J-10B sort of is the unsung hero of the skies over China while people instead pay attention to newer, shinier things. Specifications. Length - 51 Feet/ 15.50 meters Wingspan - 32 Feet/9.75 meters Height - 17.80 Feet/5.43 meters Wing Area - 356.3 Feet²/33.1 meters² Weight (Empty) - 21,500pounds/9,750 kilograms. Weight (Loaded) - 28,600 pounds/12,400 kilograms Maximum Takeoff Weight - 42,500 lb/19,277 kilograms Top Speed - Mach 2.2 at Altitude, Mach 1.2 Sea level. Range - 1,600 km with Airborne refueling, 1,100 km without. Ferry range - 2,000 Miles/3,200 kilometers. Service Ceiling - 60,000 feet. Maximum G loading - +10/-3 Armament/Loadout Options. - x1 Twin barreled 23x115mm cannon, 3,600 rounds per minute. Options for - (might cut out some older variants to save space) 90mm unguided rocket pods. PL-9C Short range Air to Air missiles PL-12B/PL-12D Long range Air to Air missiles LD-10 Anti radiation missiles. YJ-9K Anti Ship missiles. PL-9 Air to surface missiles. GB2/3 family of Precision guided bombs. LS6 "Standoff" Guided glide bombs. FT1 Satellite guided bombs. Standard 250kg and 500kg unguided bombs. Up to 3 external drop tanks for extended range. --------------- Welp, that took longer then I thought, but I'm glad I have the 4 threads I really want down now, I plan to update all of them if there's interest and when I feel like I can. Anyway, later, more planes, helos, and the Airborne coming. Be sure to check my other topics covering the other branches of the PLA. http://sturgeonshous...d-units-thread/- Regarding Infantry, small arms, and infantry support weapons. http://sturgeonshous...w-with-content/- Regarding land based vehicles, armor, and weapon systems http://sturgeonshous...vy-and-marines/- Regarding the Navy, Marines, and Weapons used by them and also land based anti ship defense systems.