Khand-e Posted January 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Chinese new Light tank, i guess? Yes, from what I've gathered, it's surprisingly based on a downscaled 99A2, and designed specifically to operate in the desert and swampy regions and in higher mountainous regions like Tibet, where the thin air eventually chokes the life out of heavier vehicles' engines. Hence why you see it tested near such places alot, like so. LoooSeR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Those are the saggiest tracks I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted January 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Only the king of slack tracks for the Himalayas tanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xlucine Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Notice the much smaller gap between the return rollers and road wheels when it's on the truck compared to when it's on the desert. Seems to have some kind of controllable suspension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted January 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Well, here's 4 more being transferred from a depot by train, the second to the front is the eternal heavenly emperor of slacking tracks. The armament is the T83 high pressure 105mm series, considering almost all modern mbts simply can't operate at the altitudes and enviorments this is designed for however, this isn't seen as much of a problem to not use a 125mm gun like the full size 99A2. LoooSeR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xlucine Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Just a roided L7, or something more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 A super roided L7 longer barrel designed for higher pressure combustible cases and with much longer rods then NATO countries used before more or less moving on to 120mm The DU alloy rounds for said series are quoted at 600mm of RHA penetration at 2km. Also likely using an autoloader in this case as the crew is still expected to be only 3 men to save on space and weight. Edit: another interesting note is, despite the caliber, It's capable of firing any ATGM in the Russian Bastion family of missiles which China license produces. other then that they make 105mm HEAT and HEAT-FRAG (HEDP basically) shells for the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Is it just me, or does this camo net look more like a tablecloth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted January 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Well it certainly tricked you into thinking it's concealing a mere table didn't it? I'd say it's a very effective camo net by that merit! T___A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Chinese armoured vehicles are collapsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I actually have an actual print of that poster lying around somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 China, AA systems moved to border after incident with farmers. HQ-12 GLORIOUS SU-27 AND NOT A CHINESE COPY OF IT PROTECT SKIES OF CHINA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 These farmers wouldn't be using Peaceful Soviet Tractors, would they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Chinese armoured vehicles are collapsible. I see the PLA uses the vaunted "COBRA!!!!" attack formation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I have a question - what is this device on top of the turret roof (right part of photo), that looks like combination of commander's panoramic sight with something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xlucine Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 It looks like a commanders sight to me, but it's on the wrong side and he already has one. Maybe a laser dazzler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 It looks like a commanders sight to me, but it's on the wrong side and he already has one. Maybe a laser dazzler? Yes, i heard that ZTZ-99A2 have a laser dazzler. In fact, Soviets were working on several models for tanks and infantry, so it is not something totally new. But this particular device looks little bit different from previous model, so i think Chinese designers updated/improved it or combined with something else. Turret design is interesting, i believe that what we see is outside "shell" with ERA for an actual turret. If it is true, this turret should have pretty good roof protection. And look at their commnader's panoramic sight. Russian T-72 "Sport" had similar one (rumors say that that panoramic sight is planned to be used on T-14.) ZTZ-99A2 (sight is under HMG) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Without ERA (?) and side skirts. Look at those white thick cables going to those small devices on top of the gun. I almost 100% sure that those are FCS radars. One for shooting (measure muzzle velocity and deviations from it for later corrections), second one could be for spotting. First 2 rollers also have some sort of shock absorbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 A few notes. 1. That is in fact a Laser dazzler, It's also designed to detect lasers such as those from rangefinders and guided weapons and relay the origin location to the vehicle crew, and as a comms device. The reason it's placed on the roof is so it can elevate high enough to also target helicopters. 2. A few of the places some see as ERA are actually high hardness/density spaced applique armor tiles, this can be seen as they're too big to be ERA and they don't match the appearance of any known PLA ERA design. (The first image obviously Has ERA though.) LoooSeR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 It's also worth pointing out I guess that the device behind the gunner hatch is also connected the the system and is called the JT-1, It's capable of doing thing such as jamming weapon guidance systems and frying IR sensors at close enough range. LoooSeR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 That is useful little device. Basically soft kill active protection system (like Shtora, only better and actually working). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Older model Type 98 modified as a test bed for a side mounted short range air to air missile system, the device on the roof is the targeting and guidance systems. Note the absence of composite/ceramic tiles, particularly on the turret front for this test model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 So this "ERA" on frontal part of the ZTZ-99A2 turret is not ERA at all, but ceramics or some kind of composite/NERA. If it is ceramics, it could seriously help with APFSDS at some angles, AFAIK. That way of mounting armor is really different from Russian - in our tanks NERA/ceramics/whatever is placed inside of steel "pockets". Screws? Ainen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 The array on the turret front is actually hollow. The latest model ZTZ-99A2s are better armored (and heavier) then older versions of the 99 familty, and even though the shape of the array is different on the ztz-99a2, It's believed to be the same. It's placed on the outside because, among other reasons, doing so greatly increases the turret fronts resistance to HEAT weapons, And potentially cause kinetic penetraters to yaw or fragment. That's of course not to say the Ztz-99A2 can't use ERA aswell, as they've been seen doing so, just that the tile array caused some people to confuse them with ERA bricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Leo 2A6 have wedges like this, acting as spaced armor, but Chinese engineers made them better by adding ceramics/NERA blocks on top of those wedges, trying to damage HEAT jet or make it "interrupted", as i understand. If it is ceramics, it would also resist to APFSDS pretty well, causing deformation of tips/caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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