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That running gear looks quite flimsy for such a big IFV. When it drove of the ramp with low speed, the front sprockets hit the ground. I wouldn't want to imagine what would happen at higher speeds.

This amphibious race will either be very fun or very boring to watch...

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21 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

Russian team will be using this thing

 

A ZBD-05? Odd they are using a Chinese system (unless they standardized on that for the whole race this year).

 

10 hours ago, barbaria said:

That running gear looks quite flimsy for such a big IFV. When it drove of the ramp with low speed, the front sprockets hit the ground. I wouldn't want to imagine what would happen at higher speeds.

This amphibious race will either be very fun or very boring to watch...

 

I suspect it'll at least last for a race. It's not quite as heavy as its size would imply (26 t).

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1 hour ago, TokyoMorose said:

 

A ZBD-05? Odd they are using a Chinese system (unless they standardized on that for the whole race this year).

 

 

I suspect it'll at least last for a race. It's not quite as heavy as its size would imply (26 t).

Yes, all teams will be using Chinese vehicles. Soldier in that video noted that a lot of systems inside are "very similar to ours".

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Chines People's Liberation Army  is arriving in Zabaykalsk.

PLA will send 3200 personnel, 900 tanks, guns, armored vehicles + 30 jets, helicopters. The drills will take place in Zabaykalsky krai Zugol range on Sept 11-15.

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1 hour ago, heretic88 said:

 

Quite serious looking IFV. How does it compare to BMP-3? Protection, ergonomics, electronics...

Generally somewhat similar to BMP-3

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It is claimed that front arc withstands 30-mm armor-piercing rounds. Sides withstand 14.5-mm rounds. 

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It is believed that the front chassis of the Type 04A can defend 30 mm armor-piercing incendiary within 1,000 meters and both sides can defend 14.5 mm armor-piercing incendiary within 200 meters.

 

BMP-3

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The frontal armor can withstand the impact of projectiles with a caliber of 30 mm from a distance of 200 meters. The roof and sides withstand a bullet B-32 with a caliber of 12.7 mm from a distance of 100-200 meters.

Note - type of 30 mm projectile that BMP-3 armor can withstand is unknown.

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9 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

BMP-3

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The frontal armor can withstand the impact of projectiles with a caliber of 30 mm from a distance of 200 meters. The roof and sides withstand a bullet B-32 with a caliber of 12.7 mm from a distance of 100-200 meters.

Note - type of 30 mm projectile that BMP-3 armor can withstand is unknown.

there was some discussion on the Otvaga forum about BMP-3's protection, starting with this message (and then going for more than an entire page,) which says that it's frontal armor can withstand 30mm 2A42's AP from 300m at +-40 degrees, and side armor can withstand 7,62 B-32 from 0 m at 90 deg, 

and it seems like BMP-3's sides without additional armor are protected against 12.7 B-32 at some distance - only at angles that are much smaller than 90 deg.

 

BTW, it has been claimed https://imgur.com/a/2Ua7OkE that to withstand 12.7mm B-32 from 100m at 90 degrees one needs 70mm thick layer of same ABT-102 as BMP-3 has (and it is known that it's side armor only 43mm thick).

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24 minutes ago, skylancer-3441 said:

there was some discussion on the Otvaga forum about BMP-3's protection, starting with this message (and then going for more than an entire page,) which says that it's frontal armor can withstand 30mm 2A42's AP from 300m at +-40 degrees, and side armor can withstand 7,62 B-32 from 0 m at 90 deg, 

and it seems like BMP-3's sides without additional armor are protected against 12.7 B-32 at some distance - only at angles that are much smaller than 90 deg.

 

BTW, it has been claimed https://imgur.com/a/2Ua7OkE that to withstand 12.7mm B-32 from 100m at 90 degrees one needs 70mm thick layer of same ABT-102 as BMP-3 has (and it is known that it's side armor only 43mm thick).

 

BMP-3 protection

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http://btvt.info/5library/vbtt_1991_bmp31.htm

 

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23 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

The frontal armor can withstand the impact of projectiles with a caliber of 30 mm

 

Yes, unfortunately, these statements are useless. I dont even understand why these are used, maybe marketing? In the same concept, it can be concluded that the M-60A1 is protected vs 125mm guns...

There are huge differences between 30mm projectiles, ranging from the very underpowered 3UBR6 (which is significantly weaker than some then-contemporary 20mm projectiles) to the very powerful APFSDS of the MK30 for example. Exact type of gun and ammunition is needed to evaluate protection.

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