ATGMs and RPGs for infantry - a thread for rebels around the world to choose their ATGM supplier.

[Belesarius]

On 10/6/2018 at 6:31 PM, Ramlaen said:

Saab has, in collaboration with Raytheon, received a contract from the U.S. Army to demonstrate a guided munition for the Carl-Gustaf® system, with three all-up-round test firings against threat-representative targets.

 

More on this:

 

https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2018/10/05/Raytheon-Saab-announce-new-Carl-Gustaf-munition-for-US-Army/6521538759079/

[Ramlaen]

 

Raytheon and Saab are working together to develop this laser-guided round for the Carl Gustaf. It features a dual charge warhead to better defeat explosive reactive armor and other added defenses on armored vehicles, as well as breach through hard cover, such as the wall of a house, to strike at enemy forces. The muntion will also feature a "fire from enclosure" capability making it safe to use even in confined spaces, such as firing through a window or doorway.

[Ramlaen]

 

[LoooSeR]

Houthis after assault of one of Saudi positions in Jizan province found South Korean Raybolt ATGM.

[2805662]

On 10/11/2018 at 2:27 AM, Ramlaen said:

 

It was fun to play around with. The ACOG has a custom reticle with is even more simple than that fitted to the Russian RPG-7. 

 

AirTronicUSA are also getting into the PG-7 rocket market. 

[Alzoc]

MBDA's MMP have been successfully launched from a semi-rigid boat (1 sea-land and 1 sea-sea test, both hit their target):

 

[LoooSeR]

If Iranians can sneak ballistic missiles into Yemen, can they sneak 1 ATGM out of it? Asking for a friend.

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[SH_MM]

Panzerfaust-3T is very heavy, but DND has adopted the same ammunition to the RGW concept (then called RGW-110), which weighs "only" 10 kg.

 

[Jägerlein]

On 10/13/2018 at 12:12 PM, Willy Brandt said:

How heavy are the different warheads for the RPG7?

nearly 10lb for a 7VR. But I thinks there is still a penetration gap between those two.

 

[http://roe.ru/eng/catalog/land-forces/strelkovoe-oruzhie/grenade-launchers/pg-7vr/ ]

[Alzoc]

Following the successful test of the MMP fired from a Zodiac, MBDA intend to build a naval version of the missile for patrol and landing vessel.

 

 

Personally I think that with a range of only 4-5 km right now, it's not particularly interesting to use it as a support weapon for landing operations.

Once they develop a long range version it could be a valuable asset.

[Ramlaen]

[Ramlaen]

MMP being tested by French soldiers in Djibouti.

 

[LoooSeR]

MoD SF member with Kornet, in Syria

[LoooSeR]

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   At the air show in Zhuhai for the first time, a universal tactical missile system with a modular launcher on a universal base TL-4 developed by the Chinese corporation CASIC (China Aerospace Science & Industry Corporation Limited) was presented. The range is 6 kilometers.

 

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Airburst RPG

[LoooSeR]

Russian description is incredible.

 

[LoooSeR]

 

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[LoooSeR]

HJ-10B penetration level - 0.95 of Average Chinese Person

 

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[LoooSeR]

GM-94 could be a good base for many possibilities... although it appears not much work is done with it outside of SF-specific grenade types.

[LoooSeR]

Looks like QN-202 on UGV chassis

[Vicious_CB]

On 11/8/2018 at 12:27 PM, LoooSeR said:

GM-94 could be a good base for many possibilities... although it appears not much work is done with it outside of SF-specific grenade types.

 

 

Finally someone made a modernized "China Lake" M79 grenade launcher. 

 

 

 

[LoooSeR]

4 minutes ago, Vicious_CB said:

Finally someone made a modernized "China Lake" M79 grenade launcher. 

 

 

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   Well, it is 24 years old modernisation, i think it is time for a new version of GM-94.

[Vicious_CB]

6 minutes ago, LoooSeR said:

   Well, it is 24 years old modernisation, i think it is time for a new version of GM-94.

 

Dont think theres much to improve upon. Maybe use lighter weight materials and ditch the buttstock. 

 

Also russian grenades probably dont use the stupid spin activated fuse like in the 40mm HEDP that eats up half the warhead volume. Actually we should probably fix the 40mm lethality problem before adopting a new grenade launcher. 

 

On the other hand we got stuck with this monstrosity 

[LoooSeR]

   GM-94 looks to be handy thing, but it have poblems. I do think they can be upgraded - FCS, maybe make it semi-auto instead of pump action, few other changes.

[Vicious_CB]

13 minutes ago, LoooSeR said:

   GM-94 looks to be handy thing, but it have poblems. I do think they can be upgraded - FCS, maybe make it semi-auto instead of pump action, few other changes.

 

What kind of problems? Im generally against adding anymore complexity and weight to GL since the best use of a GL is as a secondary or specialty weapon. A completely stripped down M320 in a thigh holster is currently the best option for an individual GL in western forces. I see the GM-94 strapped to back of squad designated grenadier as a much better option than strapping the GL to his rifle or giving the poor guy a Milkor much like a breaching shotgun.