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4 minutes ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

That's still too much for $1 million. I think this is just one part of a longer contract, to supply 3,500 missiles over an undefined amount of time, with $1 million being allocated to the manufacturer for the course of one year.

 

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order 3534 cases of anti-tank guided missiles

We are speaking about shells from missiles, one of simplest of components of ATGM (no warhead, guidance systems, motors, etc).

Also, as this is order inside of Russia, converting rubles to dollars don't give good picture on prices/quantities.

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   Saudi Arabia purchased 205 ATGMs and 1,270 ATGM from Luch Design Bureau.

 

   From June 2018 to February 2019 (data for a later period has not yet been posted) SA purchased from Ukraine:
- 110 Skiff ATGM (130-mm) with EYE-LR-S Aselsan thermal imagers (Stugna-P ATGM of UAF are equipped with same thermal iamger)
- 95 lightweight portable Korsar ATGM (107 mm)
- 300 tandem HEAT anti-tank guided missile systems PK-2S (for the Skif ATGM)
- 400 high-explosive fragmentation guided missile systems RK-2OF (for the Skif ATGM)
- 500 high-explosive fragmentation guided missile systems the PK-3OF (for the Korsar ATGM)
- 50 inert training missiles for both types of ATGM
- 2 simulators and 4 mock up rockets for the Skif and Corsair complexes.
The total amount of deliveries was about 165 million dollars worth.

 

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the article is great very informative the carl gustav is a great system 

although as an israeli i favor the german israeli joint venture matador rocket (rgw-90 for europeans )  

what i fundamentally disagree about is the part about polish army needs 

 

carl gustav is an equal competitor to the rgw-90 (pick whoever gives the best terms) 

but poland is a major spike user it can easily acquire and participate in the manufacture of spike-sr   

if the need for close in anti tank system is there (in the idf spike sr is not in service) 

 

it is cheap one use has no clu and has a 1.5  km max range and 100 meter minimum range 

and lots of commonality with other spike systems in training and parts 

 

for poland nlaw is an idiotic waste of money and logistics nightmare 

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On 5/15/2019 at 2:13 PM, pack leader said:

the article is great very informative the carl gustav is a great system 

although as an israeli i favor the german israeli joint venture matador rocket (rgw-90 for europeans )  

what i fundamentally disagree about is the part about polish army needs 

 

carl gustav is an equal competitor to the rgw-90 (pick whoever gives the best terms) 

but poland is a major spike user it can easily acquire and participate in the manufacture of spike-sr   

if the need for close in anti tank system is there (in the idf spike sr is not in service) 

 

it is cheap one use has no clu and has a 1.5  km max range and 100 meter minimum range 

and lots of commonality with other spike systems in training and parts 

 

for poland nlaw is an idiotic waste of money and logistics nightmare 

 

1) Greate, couse in next FragOut you will read about Panzerfaust 3 and RGW family :) But it will by in june or july... 

 

2) In case Spike (and compare to Javelin) you can read this:

English version FragOut! whit  article Javelin vs Spike:

 

https://fragout.uberflip.com/i/1064315-frag-out-magazine-22/0?

 

page 48.

 

3) Yes and no. Of course that SPike is better as normal ATGM. But Poland can't afford so mucht number of the ATGM, and we urgent must replace 2,7k rgppanc-7 (RPG-7).

 

And recoiless guns are not so stupid in many cases...

 

 

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   Drone-40

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/.../programmable 40-millimeter shot, which can perform various functions, for example, be loaded with a explosive warhead or become a reconnaissance drone.

   Drone 40 is fired from a grenade launcher, after reaching the required height, the Drone-40 goes into flight mode, for which it has four engine engines that stabilize the flight directions and allow the “grenade” to fly directionally.

   And this thing can fly for as long as 12 minutes or 20 minutes in a state of inactivity. Cruising speed "Drone-40" is 20 m/s, and the maximum range of flight under optimal conditions may exceed 10 km.

   Inside of this drone, operator can place both a camera and various types of warheads (including armor-piercing, fragmentation, smoke) or anti-drone system. 

 

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