LoooSeR Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Photos from from the exercises of units of the PLA 76th Army. PGZ-07 SPAAG. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LoooSeR Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 Buk-M3 missile Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Serbian PASARS-16 Spoiler Zyklon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Pantsir-S1 of the armed forces of Algeria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Drone wars soon. The US Army, witnessing the expanding use of commercial and light miltiary drones around the world, has bought Raytheon’s tube-launched Coyote drone to find, target and destroy them. The contract includes Raytheon’s KRFS radar. The Army is deploying the system. LoooSeR and Collimatrix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LoooSeR Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 Photo shows pretty well 2 stage AA missile of the Pantsir system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted July 23, 2018 Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 What seems to be a Fateh 110 or M600 (a derivative of Fateh) was fired at targets close to the border with Israel, supposedly initially with a trajectory that put Israeli cities up to 40km away from the border in danger. In response Stunner missiles were fired from central Israel to intercept, later realizing it was a false alarm with the SRBMs landing in Syria. This is the first operational launch of the Stunner. https://www.timesofisrael.com/rocket-sirens-blare-across-golan-northern-israel-idf-investigating/ Correction: Those were two Tochka missiles, one of whom was intercepted. The 2nd interceptor missile self-destructed mid-air and the 2nd Tochka reached its target as it was realized it would fall in Syria and not Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Does anyone know the price composition of a PAC-3MSE missile? I have a trouble understanding how come it can cost close to $6 million when competing missiles are just so much cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Mighty_Zuk said: Does anyone know the price composition of a PAC-3MSE missile? I have a trouble understanding how come it can cost close to $6 million when competing missiles are just so much cheaper. Poland's buy? Their price estimates are strange, and a PAC-3MSE costs ~$4.7 mil each. As for the price of competing missiles, are you taking into account the labor/material costs, exchange rates and what the various missiles capabilities are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Ramlaen said: Poland's buy? Their price estimates are strange, and a PAC-3MSE costs ~$4.7 mil each. As for the price of competing missiles, are you taking into account the labor/material costs, exchange rates and what the various missiles capabilities are? 4.7? Sorry I can't access the link you sent, and I can't post mine but defensenews.com reported a while ago that Poland was spooked by the 5.7 mil price tag, that would grow to 8 under special terms Poland requested. I ask this because recently there were some news about the Stunner missile, with everyone claiming about 1 mil USD per missile, and one claiming a more exact figure of 700K USD. The deal with Poland involves 1,000 Stunner missiles for only 1 billion USD, and Poland wants to produce many of them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 33 minutes ago, Mighty_Zuk said: 4.7? Sorry I can't access the link you sent, and I can't post mine but defensenews.com reported a while ago that Poland was spooked by the 5.7 mil price tag, that would grow to 8 under special terms Poland requested. I ask this because recently there were some news about the Stunner missile, with everyone claiming about 1 mil USD per missile, and one claiming a more exact figure of 700K USD. The deal with Poland involves 1,000 Stunner missiles for only 1 billion USD, and Poland wants to produce many of them as well. My understanding is that Poland is buying both SkyCeptors and PAC-3MSE missiles for its Patriot batteries. It might be worth figuring out whats different between the Stunner and SkyCeptor missile since they are not the same thing. On the link I posted, there is ~$4.26 mil per missile which raises to ~$4.7 mil when you include other hardware like the kits that modify launchers to use any type of Patriot missile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Ramlaen said: My understanding is that Poland is buying both SkyCeptors and PAC-3MSE missiles for its Patriot batteries. It might be worth figuring out whats different between the Stunner and SkyCeptor missile since they are not the same thing. On the link I posted, there is ~$4.26 mil per missile which raises to ~$4.7 mil when you include other hardware like the kits that modify launchers to use any type of Patriot missile. Okay, well, the parameters are not fully known but it is said the Stunner is quite substantially faster, capable of intercepting missiles traveling at mach 7.5 (hypersonic), has a good range of 160km, although some cite 300km, perhaps incorrectly. But the main cost determining parameters are the seekers. First, though, both missiles have no warhead. Seekers are the Stunner's main selling point. It has one passive seeker (radar) just like many other long range missiles, but it has two active ones (radar, claimed by some to be AESA, and some EO seeker) unlike most others using only one active seeker. CM is also abundant, as it needs both ECCM and IRCCM. Technically the Stunner should be more expensive because of its additional electronics and newer more complex engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelninja333 Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 What are the advantages of 57mm AA guns like the S-60 over their ww2 counterparts, it seems like it was designed to be sort of an "ultimate" "ww2" AA gun, but as it really has no equivalents it is really hard to compare it to other AA guns like 40/70 Bofors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, Toimisto said: What are the advantages of 57mm AA guns like the S-60 over their ww2 counterparts, it seems like it was designed to be sort of an "ultimate" "ww2" AA gun, but as it really has no equivalents it is really hard to compare it to other AA guns like 40/70 Bofors. IIRC range and effect on target if hit. Modern 57 mm SPAAG like Derivatsia are interesting because of programmable HE-frag vs drones, ATGMs, missiles/rockets, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 Buk-M2, a whole system. 9S510 Command vehicle 9S18M1-3 radar Spoiler 9S36 target illumination and missile guidance vehicle Spoiler 9A317 TEL Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LoooSeR Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 Quote HQ-16A, air defense brigade of the People's Army of the 72nd Army via otvaga forum Quote HQ-16B, the air defense team of the People's Army of the 71st Army Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 According to Maven the US Army is remaking M6 Bradleys. I would assume they are using the leftover equipment from when they were converted back to regular Bradleys. Quote “As directed by the Chief of Staff of the Army, the Army is conducting a proof of principle to incorporate Man Portable Air Defense Systems back into the Armored Brigade Combat Teams by modifying two dozen Bradleys to carry Stinger Missiles in lieu of TOW Missiles,” Ashley Givens, spokeswoman for Program Executive Officer, Ground Combat Systems, told Warrior Maven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted August 3, 2018 Report Share Posted August 3, 2018 Best MANPADS Jägerlein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Not sure where to put that, but this is thread closer to expected role of Peresvet system. More from him: http://militaryrussia.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1211&t=3463&sid=0b420174565c164f1de482ff9107802d&start=200 Second position of Peresvet: Unexpected use for me, i thought it was some sort of tech demonstrator. Quote The purpose seems to blind satellites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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