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14 hours ago, Donward said:

 

It is completely asinine and there is no logical reason for those values other than idiots haven't learned from the last real estate bubble.

At least it's not the Bay Area, they block any new development so the median price of a single family home is like $1,000,000.

 

You could buy 4 houses in my state's capital, Providence, for that price.

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2 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

NATO's contribution to the war on drugs:

 

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https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/07/no-need-for-nato/

 

 

 

 

 

Whiles the only factual thing shown by this statistic is a rise in ha of farmed land. The Corn Belt and the Wheat Belt would look far more dangerous in this kind of statistics ;)

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26 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

 

Considering NATO's involvement starts in 2002, so are you.....Massively so.  :lol:

 

You presented a chart of available cropland as actual production numbers, you have no place to say anything.

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54 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

 

Considering NATO's involvement starts in 2002, so are you.....Massively so.  :lol:

Someone with an opposite opinion could read this statistic like: "Oh the Nato intervention massively improved the situation because the agricultural sector is booming". Yes, that's BS, too. But this statistic is just not suitable for these kinds of conclutions. Percantage of cropland used for poppies, est. production of raw opium in tons - this is what you need.

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On ‎7‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 2:50 PM, Ramlaen said:

 

You presented a chart of available cropland as actual production numbers, you have no place to say anything.

 

On ‎7‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 3:39 PM, Jägerlein said:

Someone with an opposite opinion could read this statistic like: "Oh the Nato intervention massively improved the situation because the agricultural sector is booming". Yes, that's BS, too. But this statistic is just not suitable for these kinds of conclutions. Percantage of cropland used for poppies, est. production of raw opium in tons - this is what you need.

 

On ‎7‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 4:28 PM, Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect said:

Do you have a permit for that graph??

 

Oh FFS.....Are you lot under the impression that the Afghan opium growers deliver their produce up to government checkpoints so it can be precisely measured & weighed?  :lol:

 

The reason the figures are estimates is that the so called authorities in Afghanistan don't have a fucking clue what is going on in half the country, that being due to the fact that they don't control it.....The best they can manage is to tell you roughly how much of their former arable land they don't control any more and give you a rough guess at how much opium that could yield (based upon the amount they grew when they did still control it).  :rolleyes:

 

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1 hour ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

The reason the figures are estimates is that the so called authorities in Afghanistan don't have a fucking clue what is going on in half the country, that being due to the fact that they don't control it...

You are a bit pessimistic! Karsai and his relatives were probably well aware of what is happening and at least partially in controll of the opium industry...family buisness. His successors might not be as efficient in this area like the Karsai administration was but "no clue" and "no control" is a serious defamation for the current administrations ability to earn some baksheesh ;)

Honestly, I don't doubt the probably all time high of the Afghan opium production. But Mr. Murray is just a punch who's not able or to lazy to find proper statistics - because the one he used is completely useless in this context. At least for anyone who knows that the word "potential" means that every ha of farmable land would be used to plant poppies. Butt well...he also postulates that the Russian state is behind all the opium traffic.

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Nope. My argument was about the statistics not the subject. Questioning the validity of arguments for set answers is a occupational disease in my profession.
A discussion about the outcome of Astan 2.0 would be pointless.

 

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In the south of Iraq, probably the most large-scale unrest since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein are happening. Government and party offices are being thrown up, there are clashes with the police, now there are reports that the Internet has been cut off in these provinces.

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Israel's march towards fascism is almost complete:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/17/israeli-parliament-votes-to-ban-state-and-army-critics-from-schools

 

In other news, they are warming up the AA Guns and starving the dogs in Best Korea:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44855699

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3 hours ago, LostCosmonaut said:

Pretty bad dam collapse in Laos today; https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/24/laos-dam-collapse-hundreds-missing

 

Now's the part where I'm an asshole and make a political point out of this; what's the total number killed by dam failures / accidents vs nuclear accidents? 

Nuclear plants are a couple hundred IIRC, where there are individual hydroelectric dam failures that have killed 20,000+, so... a lot more on the dam failure side.

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