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On 1/24/2020 at 9:42 PM, SH_MM said:

The second batch of Pumas (for which the budget has already been approved) hasn't ordered yet, as the original batch isn't finished.

 

According to Inspector General of the German Army Gen. Eberhard Zorn, the intent is to purchase 229 Puma IFVs as a second batch. That's the first official number.

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12 hours ago, SH_MM said:

 

According to Inspector General of the German Army Gen. Eberhard Zorn, the intent is to purchase 229 Puma IFVs as a second batch. That's the first official number.

Source?

Edit: Found it. Förderkreis Heer Newsletter 2/2020

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That would make 579 Pumas.

 

579/44 equals roughly 13 with 7 to spare.

 

So 1 for refernce at one of the Testing Centers and 6 at the Training Center together with the 8 Driver Training Vehicles.

 

Currently there are 9 Active Bataillons and 2 non Active Bataillons.
 

So you have 2 Bataillon sets of Pumas worth to spare.....

 

Other tidbits from the Newsletter mainly Engineering related:

-New System for Minelaying is in the concept phase
-Introduction in 2028
-Ability for Friend/Foe Discrimination
-On/Off Switch

-New Amphibious Bridging System to replace the M3
-MLC 100 and in special cases MLC 130 for exceptional Loads

-600m worth of Vehicles + 160m worth of Vehicles for Training
-Due to cooperation on the M3 with the Brits there is a possibility of cooperation on developing the succesor system

-Introduction 2030

-Replacment of the AEV Dachs
-Either Kodiak from Rheinmetall or Wisent 2 from FFG

-Delivery 2026

 

Source: http://www.fkhev.de/index.php?id=10&L=1%2F'

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13 hours ago, DIADES said:

In service e somewhere around 2050 at this rate :)

 

The last of the 1st Batch is getting delivered this year. The production per year was around 90. But with the S1 and S2 updates happening besides the new Batch 2 Productio it could hamper it a bit but with production halved it should still be done in 5 years.

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In 2018 the full series production rate was cited as 66 Puma infantry fighting vehicles per year by Jane's IHS. However in it was exceeded at least in one year.

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21 hours ago, Willy Brandt said:

should still be done in 5 years.

I am talking "in service" not just delivered.  PUMA is a long way from fit for service hence MARDER upgrades

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Michael Jerchel names the TEM-1A rangefinder sight and TRP-1A and TRP-2A commander's panoramic sights while Stefan Kotsch also mentions the TRP-5 and the CIA comes with this :
 
So, who is right ?

 

 

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https://www.janes.com/article/95321/ffg-wins-upgrade-work-for-german-wiesel-1-weapon-carriers

 

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The German Ministry of Defence (MoD) in December 2019 awarded Flensburger Fahrzeugbau Gesellschaft (FFG) a contract to upgrade 181 deployed Wiesel 1 Armoured Weapon Carrier (AWC) vehicles to extend their operational life to at least 2025. The company declined to disclose the value of the contract and delivery schedule.

In June 2017, following a competition, FFG was awarded a contract to build three prototypes of the upgraded Wiesel 1 AWC; these were completed in 2018 and handed over to the German Army for extensive troop trials.

Benjamin Lindsay, senior manager for sales and project development with FFG's Military Programs Division, told Jane's the company will receive batches of 25 Wiesel 1 AWCs without weapons, which will then be upgraded by FFG and returned to the German Army, which will fit government furnished equipment (GFE) such as radios and weapons.

All three deployed versions of the Wiesel are to be upgraded by the company: one fitted with the E6-II-A1 turret armed with the Rheinmetall 20 mm MK 20 Rh 202 dual-feed cannon, with one becoming an anti-tank version and one becoming a reconnaissance version, according to FFG.

The anti-tank version was originally fitted with a pedestal-mounted Raytheon TOW A1 anti-tank missile (ATM) launcher but this is to be replaced by the Eurospike MELLS ATM that is deployed by the German Army in several applications. MELLS is the German version of Rafael's Spike-LR.

 

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