GLORIOUS T-14 ARMATA PICTURES.

[alanch90]

6 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

 

Meaning 3 tank platoons, and not going all to the Moscow military district as rumored previously.

[Mighty_Zuk]

I cannot stress how logistically retarded this is.

 

Maybe I'm just used to the Israeli system of upgrading one battalion because the logistical framework only allows battalion-level equipment changes. Maybe Russia's logistical framework is so comprehensive that it allows full support over long ranges to platoon level troops.

 

But if that is not the case, and they don't have special logistical units to support experimental units, then that's fucked. 

And from what I've read the state trials should have ended or should end soon. 

[LoooSeR]

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   However, according to insider information, the changes just affect the appearance of tanks. They will be installed new protection on sides. Since the protection of sides did not stand the test, the Research Institute of Steel developed new ERA blocks, which will be about one and a half times thicker than those used previously. Some parts of chassis will be almost completely modified: rollers and tracks. A new self-digger blade will be installed. And some other little things.

About Armata from GurKhan.

[Mighty_Zuk]

@LoooSeR is that early bit of data on the 12 tanks entering service, is the only available data on the matter atm? Because it sounds a lot like they're just sending serial variants to experimental units and not regular troops. And afaik experimental units, along with their logistical backing, are totally organic. 

[LoooSeR]

5 minutes ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

@LoooSeR is that early bit of data on the 12 tanks entering service, is the only available data on the matter atm? Because it sounds a lot like they're just sending serial variants to experimental units and not regular troops. And afaik experimental units, along with their logistical backing, are totally organic. 

   This is only info at this moment.

[LoooSeR]

Boomerang APC during testing, screengrabs from TV Zvezda's video about T-90M

 

Spoiler

 

[LoooSeR]

Animated 3D model of possible autoloader on T-14

 

[alanch90]

Its very close to the that patent on obj 195 autoloader that you posted on this thread almost 4 years ago.

Seems plausible, and it would also mean (if this is effectively the design) that the amount of ready to fire shells doesnt change between 125mm and 152mm.

[Karamazov]

4 hours ago, alanch90 said:

Its very close to the that patent on obj 195 autoloader that you posted on this thread almost 4 years ago.

Seems plausible, and it would also mean (if this is effectively the design) that the amount of ready to fire shells doesnt change between 125mm and 152mm.

I doubt it. automatic loader on the T-95 was developed specifically for the maximum number of shells 152mm. It was one of his main problems - a small amount of shells.
According to those working on the “object 477”: at the project level, a reserve gun of 125mm was approved. Most likely here is the same. And now it is installed on the T-14 with auto loader. 

[Serge]

It doesn’t explain why the ejection door is on the left. 

[alanch90]

1 minute ago, Serge said:

It doesn’t explain why the ejection door is on the left. 

The spent cartridge ejector might be a different apparatus altogether, after all i find it hard to believe that an unmanned turret wouldnt have systems to deal with misfires and the like. There has to be more to it than just a way to load the gun. On the other hand, ejecting cases sideways has its benefits, for example you can use the entire turret roof surfice for sights and gadgets, and ERA instead of having to dedicate surfice for a case ejector hatch. Another advantage of the lateral hatch being located so near the breech is that it contributes with dealing with fumes.

[Serge]

It’s a balistic hole too. 

[alanch90]

19 minutes ago, Serge said:

It’s a balistic hole too. 

The whole turret is a ballistic hole anyway

[Serge]

So, put the ejection hatch on the roof and it will be easier to up-armored the turret. 

A tank needs always more armor on day or another. 

[LoooSeR]

4 minutes ago, Serge said:

So, put the ejection hatch on the roof and it will be easier to up-armored the turret. 

A tank needs always more armor on day or another. 

   Placing it on roof will compromise roof armor then, on top of creating a problems with extracting ejected casings, obscuring work of soft kill APS and effecting atmosphere conditions sensors work/results.

[alanch90]

Just took another look at the Obj 195 autoloader patent and realized that we already got a look at the spent stub turret ejection system:

 

The apparatus seems to "hinge" against the ejection hatch, and most likely folds out of the way against the turret wall when its not needed. Now the only missing piece for figuring out the general function of the autolader would be the main gun cartridge ejection, and in the description of 2A82 patent, its mentioned that its breech opening and ejection characteristics are "special", although i cant understand the real meaning (you can only get so much from google translator), if somebody could properly translate the post i would appreciate it. (https://zen.yandex.ru/media/gurkhan/2a82-super-pushka-dlia-armaty-5c31c4349175d500aabd6073)

[LoooSeR]

   Hey, great news everybody.

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   “The problem was solved only in machines on the Armata platform,” he specified.

 

   According to him [director of quality and information technologies of the Ural Transport Engineering Design Bureau Ilya Baranov], this model of the tank initially meant that the crew could perform long combat missions, in connection with which the Armata was equipped with a toilet.

   The only reason stopping us from invading Poland is solved!

[alanch90]

Didnt BMP-3 have a toilet already?

[LoooSeR]

2 minutes ago, alanch90 said:

Didnt BMP-3 have a toilet already?

Not sure if:

1) it could be called a toilet

2) BMP-3 being a modern tank 

[Karamazov]

On 3/7/2019 at 11:11 PM, LoooSeR said:

 Hey, great news everybody.

finally, a worthy answer to Challenger 2. Great!

[LoooSeR]

On 3/7/2019 at 11:14 PM, LoooSeR said:

Not sure if:

1) it could be called a toilet

2) BMP-3 being a modern tank 

On a BMP-3:

 

Located under one of seats.

[LoooSeR]

Just old photo of Kurganets-25 APC

[LoooSeR]

Preping for parade

 

[LoooSeR]

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   The Russian newest infantry fighting vehicle Kurganets-25 recently passed field trials in the Syrian Arab Republic. This is reported by various sources from the number of fighters of the Syrian army and local pro-government activists.
   The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and representatives of Kurganmashzavod have not commented on this information in any way; nevertheless, the very fact of such tests has long been a surprise to no one, as hundreds of different models of modernized and prospective equipment and weapons have already passed through the sands of Syria.

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   Earlier it was reported that the first batch of infantry fighting vehicles on the basis of the promising tracked platform "Kurganets-25" will be transferred to the troops for testing their operation in 2019.

   At the moment, it is already a mature platform that needs to be checked in, to work out operational issues and, if necessary, to refine with the results obtained. It was calculated that in 2021 vehicle would be completely ready for delivery to the troops.

From ANNA news, not sure how accurate info is.

[AC GiantDad]

You know, at this point, I've become convinced what the russians should have done is just taken the Object 187 hull and mated it with the Black Eagle turret or something. The Armata has been a comedy of errors, almost like a symbol of the government that spawned it really