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The Small Arms Thread, Part 8: 2018; ICSR to be replaced by US Army with interim 15mm Revolver Cannon.


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Actually my favorite article today was....

 

Nicholas C being right for once and saying H&K isn't some magical neutronium ore enchanced steel maker and pointing out that a S&W M&P catastrophic failue was most likely caused by an improperly installed after market competition barrel (take a look at the end, it has a Compensator and it's clearly not an OEM barrel.)

 

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/01/02/potd-starting-off-new-year-mp-bang/

 

Why is this relevant to H&K? the person who originally posted it is some massive wehraboo faglord trying to state why "this is why you should always buy an H&K, their steel is like, for real for real unbreakable!", then after hours of people showing pictures of catastrophic malfunctions in H&K designed weapons, he basically rage quit his own post and deleted it. (look at his facebook profile, he's a massive shill for H&K and his page is filled with basically nothing but pictures of weapons made by them, he's the exact type of person that shows why I despise their fanbase so much. plus his company name is literally "Teufelshund Tactical", so....)

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Colli, you're an engineer as well, please explain to the people why this is a terrible statement.

 

Their metal is just betterer because their marketing department said so! They just never use it because 3d printed plastic uppers are THE FUTURE!

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I think you mean triggering Mech with this.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/01/03/ruger-announces-mini-thirty-tactical-rifle-stainless/'>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/01/03/ruger-announces-mini-thirty-tactical-rifle-stainless/

And I don't care what anyone says, the Ruger Mini 14/30 are good looking rifles that ooze '80s sex appeal.

It's a pity the design can't be unfucked.

Yeah, great idea, let's take a rifle with serious binding and friction problems and make it out of a metal that's soft and prone to galling.

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Yeah, great idea, let's take a rifle with serious binding and friction problems and make it out of a metal that's soft and prone to galling.

 

If only they hired H&K to use their grandmaster German metalworking black magic to somehow make Stainless Steel just as hard as D2 and L6 while being tough, strong and just flexible enough for the job as 1095 Cro-Van!

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This sort of lack of imagination is exactly what's wrong with the industry:
 

 

List:

1. Strike A/B (Gen 2 Strike One)

 

2. Standard Mfg SKO-Bull 12 gauge semi-auto bullpup

 

3. Desert Tech MDR

 

4. Kriss Vector

 

5. Chiappa Rhino

 

Note that this guy hasn't shot or even seen most of the guns on this list, and he doesn't seem to care about anything that isn't some kind of gadgety feature (the MDR's caliber conversion system will TAKE THE MARKET BY STORM I tell you!).

 

Sadly, pretty much the entire industry is like this. Easily dazzled by unimaginative concepts, and completely ignorant of what really makes a good product.

 

Also, LOL: "10mm is a very potent round, and totally capable of killing anything in North America."

Uh. Sure.

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Bore axis is very important for quick follow-up shots on target. Which are needed when using puny euro-trash calibers.

With American rounds, such as the .45 ACP or .44 Magnum, follow-up shots are rarely needed.

Go post that on WTA, I'm sure it would spark a thoughtful and enriching discussion.

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Bore axis is very important for quick follow-up shots on target. Which are needed when using puny euro-trash calibers. 

 

With American rounds, such as the .45 ACP or .44 Magnum, follow-up shots are rarely needed. 

 

There's no point dealing with such outdated rounds with the harder hitting .50 GI taking the market by storm.

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This sort of lack of imagination is exactly what's wrong with the industry:

 

 

List:

1. Strike A/B (Gen 2 Strike One)

 

2. Standard Mfg SKO-Bull 12 gauge semi-auto bullpup

 

3. Desert Tech MDR

 

4. Kriss Vector

 

5. Chiappa Rhino

 

Note that this guy hasn't shot or even seen most of the guns on this list, and he doesn't seem to care about anything that isn't some kind of gadgety feature (the MDR's caliber conversion system will TAKE THE MARKET BY STORM I tell you!).

 

Sadly, pretty much the entire industry is like this. Easily dazzled by unimaginative concepts, and completely ignorant of what really makes a good product.

 

Also, LOL: "10mm is a very potent round, and totally capable of killing anything in North America."

Uh. Sure.

I love it when people claim 10+ year old guns will take the industry by storm. Don't you think they've had enough time to do that by now, buddy?

 

 

It's the same when people hail the Tavor as the best modurrn weapon evah. Bitch that thing is close to 20 years old.

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It's the same when people hail the Tavor as the best modurrn weapon evah. Bitch that thing is close to 20 years old.

 

Which is pretty funny, considering damn near anyone who's ever used one of the fucking things (mainly with a silencer on it) will tell you It's one of the most godawful pieces of shit known to man.

 

It really baffles me how the IDF turn down or begrudgingly use and hate actually good weapons (the FAL, the AR-15) but then use shit like this that just a tier above then INSAS and SA80 level of bad military rifle design.

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Bore axis is very important for quick follow-up shots on target. Which are needed when using puny euro-trash calibers. 

 

With American rounds, such as the .45 ACP or .44 Magnum, follow-up shots are rarely needed. 

Please don't lump .45 AARP in with an actual useful and relevant round like .44 Magnum. 

 

 

Cuz Dirty Harry gives no shit about what is behind the target he's shooting at!

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Please don't lump .45 AARP in with an actual useful and relevant round like .44 Magnum. 

 

 

Cuz Dirty Harry gives no shit about what is behind the target he's shooting at!

 

Well Dirty Harry doesn't seem to be past the art of lying, he forgot the .50 GI can be chambered in custom revolvers.

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I think Clint Eastwood was simply trying to protect the public from the knowledge of such a dangerous round like the .50 GI honestly, It was his sworn duty when he learned the truth about it.

 

You may be wondering "why does it look like something straight out of the turn of the 20th century?" or other such questions, that's because the truth behind the .50 GI is far more sinister then one would have you to believe.

 

You may be thinking .50 GI stands for the proud GI's of America that they must clearly support not knowing where their loyalties lie, or that it simply stands for something mundane like ".50 Guncrafter Industries", but we all know, the Germans invented everything, so how can that be?

 

YES! You got it now, the true diabolical intentions. .50 GI truly stands for ".50 German Invention!" and was a secret project so far above It's time it took until 2004 for Guncrafters to catch up enough to reproduce such secretive advanced technology!

 

In one of the very few undocumented cases of it's use, a pair of T-34s were stopped on the road by a lone soldier waiting for them "star evil grin star" he said as a smirk came on his face, the T-34s stopped and the tank riders on the back one got off to engage this target, but they were dumbfounded as their puny 7.62x25mm rounds and 76.2mm shells simply couldn't penetrate his Nippon steel plot armor folded over 10,000 times, he raised his hand, using his .50 GI long slide personally modfied by the patron saint John Moses Browning and fired a single shot as he laughed maniacally, the heavy steel dinging round easily penetrating both tanks and busting their engine blocks to pieces causing them to be incapacitated, the crews fairing no batter, the bullet continued and struck one of the shock troopers all wearing their Sn-42 body armor, causing not only the main target but the shock wave from the sheer force to split their sternums in half, stopping their hearts and leaving them to die of cardiac arrest and shock.

 

The unidentified soldier gave off a slight laugh "Hah, drops them the first shot every shot" before saying "star sips tea star" and drinking some of his tea he got out of his canteen.

 

This account was wiped from the secret Soviet archives not intended for public view for pure propaganda reasons, but were later found hidden in the joint German/Japanese archives after the war, Guncrafter industries may have doomed us all by reviving such dangerous tech.

 

......But maybe that was their plan all along. have we ever seen Germans and Guncrafter Industries in the same room together?

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