Jump to content
Sturgeon's House
Khand-e

The Small Arms Thread, Part 8: 2018; ICSR to be replaced by US Army with interim 15mm Revolver Cannon.

Recommended Posts

@Sturgeon

http://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/industrie/g36-nachfolge-sig-sauer-zieht-sich-aus-vergabeverfahren-zurueck/20626810.html

MCX IS OUT!
Apparently because of ITAR Sig Sauer is pulling out.

The official Press Release https://www.presseportal.de/pm/123053/3796856

 

Eckernförde (ots) - SIG Sauer will not submit an offer under the current call for tenders of the German Armed Forces for the procurement of a new assault rifle.

In doing so, the company is reacting to what it considers to be unfavorable terms in the competition. The technical requirements of the tender were so clearly and clearly tailored to the competitor Heckler & Koch that SIG Sauer does not expect any chances to win the contract.

This is all the more surprising since the decision on the new acquisition of a new assault rifle for the Bundeswehr is largely due to any alleged by the policy of precision deficiencies of the currently in-service weapon G 36 just this competitor.

And the company does not want to jeopardize its good reputation "as a pure stroke candidate".

Short time window - missing ammunition

Also, the time available to submit the offer was clearly too short to provide a competitive sample weapon. Companies that are not already Bundeswehr suppliers are clearly disadvantaged, according to a company spokesman.

This is especially true for the test of the rifle with the desired ammunition. This test is a crucial detail for a successful test of the weapon under the aspect of the special requirements for the desired ammunition compatibility.

SIG Sauer was already promised the access to the type of ammunition used by the Bundeswehr 1 ½ years before the start of the tender, but then suddenly refused.

Suppliers who already have such ammunition as suppliers to the Bundeswehr are clearly favored by the tender.

Discrimination against US products

Finally, blanket discrimination against US products and bidders is also surprising. Thus, for the first time as part of the call for tenders for assault rifles, the "ITAR freedom" of the products was defined as an undifferentiated exclusion criterion. ITAR is a US regulatory framework designed to control arms, defense and defense trade. This exclusion criterion already applies to mere supplies and even if the weapon is produced in Germany.

As a result, all manufacturers with even a minor US reference will be unloaded from the tender.

In the preceding competition for entry and in the tendering of an assault rifle for the special forces of the Bundeswehr at the beginning of this year, there was no question at all of this "knockout criterion". All the more the suspicion must be imposed that first of all the admission of several participants in the preceding competition of participation the impression of a genuine selection decision among several bidders is to be awakened.

Fair competition necessary

SIG Sauer sees itself basically in a good position to also score points in a Bundeswehr tender.

"We have very modern and competitive products and were able to win fair tenders in Germany as well as abroad," says SIG Sauer Managing Director Franz von Stauffenberg.

"As a supplier to the Bundeswehr, SIG Sauer would be a great asset, but we will not be involved in submitting an offer, even though it is difficult for us, to tailor a tender, whose general conditions and handling are so clearly tailored to a competitor "criticizes the tendering process from Stauffenberg.

Media Contact:

Karl Heinz Heuser
kh.heuser@heuser-kommunikation.de
Tel: +49 221 397 503 50

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Willy Brandt said:

@Sturgeon

http://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/industrie/g36-nachfolge-sig-sauer-zieht-sich-aus-vergabeverfahren-zurueck/20626810.html

MCX IS OUT!
Apparently because of ITAR Sig Sauer is pulling out.

The official Press Release https://www.presseportal.de/pm/123053/3796856

 

Eckernförde (ots) - SIG Sauer will not submit an offer under the current call for tenders of the German Armed Forces for the procurement of a new assault rifle.

In doing so, the company is reacting to what it considers to be unfavorable terms in the competition. The technical requirements of the tender were so clearly and clearly tailored to the competitor Heckler & Koch that SIG Sauer does not expect any chances to win the contract.

This is all the more surprising since the decision on the new acquisition of a new assault rifle for the Bundeswehr is largely due to any alleged by the policy of precision deficiencies of the currently in-service weapon G 36 just this competitor.

And the company does not want to jeopardize its good reputation "as a pure stroke candidate".

Short time window - missing ammunition

Also, the time available to submit the offer was clearly too short to provide a competitive sample weapon. Companies that are not already Bundeswehr suppliers are clearly disadvantaged, according to a company spokesman.

This is especially true for the test of the rifle with the desired ammunition. This test is a crucial detail for a successful test of the weapon under the aspect of the special requirements for the desired ammunition compatibility.

SIG Sauer was already promised the access to the type of ammunition used by the Bundeswehr 1 ½ years before the start of the tender, but then suddenly refused.

Suppliers who already have such ammunition as suppliers to the Bundeswehr are clearly favored by the tender.

Discrimination against US products

Finally, blanket discrimination against US products and bidders is also surprising. Thus, for the first time as part of the call for tenders for assault rifles, the "ITAR freedom" of the products was defined as an undifferentiated exclusion criterion. ITAR is a US regulatory framework designed to control arms, defense and defense trade. This exclusion criterion already applies to mere supplies and even if the weapon is produced in Germany.

As a result, all manufacturers with even a minor US reference will be unloaded from the tender.

In the preceding competition for entry and in the tendering of an assault rifle for the special forces of the Bundeswehr at the beginning of this year, there was no question at all of this "knockout criterion". All the more the suspicion must be imposed that first of all the admission of several participants in the preceding competition of participation the impression of a genuine selection decision among several bidders is to be awakened.

Fair competition necessary

SIG Sauer sees itself basically in a good position to also score points in a Bundeswehr tender.

"We have very modern and competitive products and were able to win fair tenders in Germany as well as abroad," says SIG Sauer Managing Director Franz von Stauffenberg.

"As a supplier to the Bundeswehr, SIG Sauer would be a great asset, but we will not be involved in submitting an offer, even though it is difficult for us, to tailor a tender, whose general conditions and handling are so clearly tailored to a competitor "criticizes the tendering process from Stauffenberg.

Media Contact:

Karl Heinz Heuser
kh.heuser@heuser-kommunikation.de
Tel: +49 221 397 503 50

 

Thanks! Blogging this up today.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, Sturgeon said:

Oooh, Erik already snagged it.

 

To be fair, by the end of his article I couldn't tell if it was an announcement about the actual story or a dick sucking piece on the HK416.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 11/24/2017 at 11:33 AM, Khand-e said:

I question the safety of drinking Four Loko while in the presence of a loaded firearm.

 

For shame FAB.

 

Because the gut rot and fucking colon cancer aren't dangerous enough...

 

Still ... at least she's pretty smoking hot

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Late Chechen assassin Timur "Zona" Makhauri upon being apprehended by the Ukrainian authorities in Feb 2107.Note Stechkin & Glock w/extended mag(perhaps selective-fire Glock 18) in improvised(?) holsters. 

 

DPXSnBoXcAE7xfL.jpg

Article on a subject with unknown amount of bullshit in it:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/requiem-for-a-hit-man-1511461865

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Also, I wonder if he realizes that, of the 6 powers in the war (who made their own weapons at least), the one using the smallest bore diameter pistol/smg cartridge did the most to win the war. (7.62x25mm master race!)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Similar Content

    • By LostCosmonaut
      There are many who feel that the 5.56 NATO is a superlative rifle round. Much has been said about larger alternatives to 5.56, such as various 6.5mm and 6.8mm rounds among others. Less has been said about smaller rounds. Off the top of my head, I can recall that there was a German 4.6x36mm round, used in the HK36, and the British 4.85x49mm round. Neither of these rounds managed to gain widespread acceptance. My knowledge of the voodoo that is ballistics is somewhat limited, so I'm uncertain as to whether these failures were caused by flaws with the rounds themselves, or because they were below some lower limit of effective bullet size, beyond which performance decreases rapidly. Could we see a resurgence of these concepts in the future, or do they represent an evolutionary dead-end?
×