Khand-e Posted June 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 The Military Firearm Forum has been putting out a lot of good information about the CETME-L lately. None of it is encouraging. Sounds like a new challenger has appeared for the title of worst frontline military rifle ever put into service! Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 The DRDO and Enfield both take notice and start a desparate race to contact the spirits of Kojiro Nambu and the entire team responsible for the design of the type 94 pistol so they can design a rifle even worse than this interloper. Khand-e 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 The worst military rifle is the INSAS, right? I'm trying to keep score from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 INSAS, L85 and apparently now the CETME L are all pretty horrible. The best source of information on INSAS so far is this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.E. Watters Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 The issues with the CETME L have been known for years. There was even a period prior to the adoption of the G36 that the Spaniards had borrowed or bought M16A2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Interesting. I had not read much about the model L, and the wonderful, obviously well-researchecd Small Arms Review article on it does not go into specifics about the problems. Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted June 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 INSAS, L85 and apparently now the CETME L are all pretty horrible. The best source of information on INSAS so far is this thread. We can probably add the Tavor and G36 to that list as underlings to the royal throne of shitty rifles at least. Now if only someone would adopt the ACR.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Fight Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 uh listen kiddo... I could stand reading more bad gun comments FOR FUN.... if for some reason gun guys posted... like this.... ONCE THEY TURNED 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 damn it Ronnie Donward 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 How did we ever let an accursed wronghander into the White House!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 How did we ever let an accursed wronghander into the White House!? R O N A L D W I L S O N R E A G A N 1+1+1+1+1+1= 6 1+1+1+1+1+1= 6 1+1+1+1+1+1=6 666 666 666 666 666 The truth is OUT THERE PEOPLE!!! http://www.666truth.org/history/antichrist-myths/articletype/articleview/articleid/901/pageid/914 Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 It's been a while since I got stymied on Light Rifle (and then a lot else got in the way), but tonight's the night I get back to work in earnest on LR5. Belesarius and D.E. Watters 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 It's been a while since I got stymied on Light Rifle (and then a lot else got in the way), but tonight's the night I get back to work in earnest on LR5. Woot~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sturgeon Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Former Ruger Quality Assurance Manager for the Mini (and others) Ed Harris talks about the rifle's accuracy issues: The long run average group size for standard Mini-14 rifles fired from a test stand is about 4-5″ for ten-shot groups with M193 or M855 ammunition of “average” quality, producing an acceptance Mean Radius of 1.6-1.6″ at 200 yds from a test barrel. The M16A1 or A2 do this at 200 yards from a machine rest. I believe the biggest factor in Mini-14 accuracy is irregular contact between the gas block and the face of the slideblock, welded to the slide handle (aka operating rod). If you disassemble the rifle and inspect the face of the slide block and the rear of the gas block assembly, you may find that the face of the slide block strikes one side or the other of the gas block, rather than making a uniform and symmetrical imprint. This asymmetrical contact causes fliers. The fit-up can sometimes be improved by grinding 0.005-.010″ off the face of the slide, so that with the slide fully forward, a .001″ shim can be inserted between the slide block and gas block and be clear all the way around. This way the forward motion of the slide is stopped by the right locking lug in the cam pocket of the slide handle, rather than by the slide block slamming against the gas block, as is the case with the M1 Garand rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Saudis and G36s. Moscow, 1 June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Saudis and G36s. g[/img] They're going into battle against Yemeni guys armed with several Enfields, Mausers and old Egyptian semi-autos? Those Saudis don't stand a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LoooSeR Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Our MoD now also want light MG. Good morning, MoD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Behold the worst article on the M14 you've ever seen: http://wethearmed.com/rifles/m14-m1a-rifles/ Courtesy Oedipus. I provide laughter for all those under the Sturgeon cult slash message board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Light Rifle V is finally underway. I have no idea when it will be done, but it's at least begun. D.E. Watters and Belesarius 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Light Rifle V is finally underway. I have no idea when it will be done, but it's at least begun. I hope it has references to the 1980s TV series V. Or at least sexy, hot lizard people. And per 1:20, apparently the V stands for knocking out alien troopers by ramming the V of your crotch into their face... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10832282/TFR/boltfaceless-sm.jpg That looks fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LoooSeR Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I forgot about this picture, looks like this is a version of Tokar LMG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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