politics Post Election Thread: Democracy Dies In Darkness And You Can Help

[Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect]

4 hours ago, Lostwingman said:

Fucking end me fam

 

 

I've never seen a Trump tweet that didn't have this moron somewhere in the top replies.

Slacktivism: noun. See above.

 

Of course the left wants a bunch of free shit. They're lazy.

[Lord_James]

16 hours ago, Donward said:

 "The Mating Habits of Bigfoot and Why Women Want Him," 

 

"Women love him. Men hate him. See Bogfoot's trick to becoming an absolute lady killer!" 

 

Also, remove furry:

[Walter_Sobchak]

[Walter_Sobchak]

19 hours ago, Donward said:

When even Politico admits that Trump will be competitive in states that have never been in play for two decades or more in 2020, things are going bad for the Democrats.

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/30/electoral-college-2020-trump-747648

 

The story tries to then go on and pretend that Democrats have a shot in Texas or Georgia which is terribly optimistic.

 

The story also overlooks the key fact that anywhere from 10 to 30 percent of Republicans in 2016 bought into the #NeverTrump narrative that Trump was somehow a Trojan Horse for the Clintons and wasn't sufficiently conservative enough to appease the mores of the like of George Will, Charles Krauthammer, Bill Kristol, and the other irrelevant #NeverTrump poindexters who tried to throw 2016 to the Democrats. I would be shocked if most of the #NeverTrump vote that got gulled into not voting will continue to do so in 2020 given Trump's Supreme Court picks and conservative agenda. That is a substantial voting block that Trump will pick up for free.

 

The story also glosses over the division in the Democrat Party with hardline Leftists knocking off "moderate" Democrats and the party strife between the Sanders and Clinton wing. There is a lot of finger-pointing going on with the base which feels their leaders are more interested in lining their pockets with corporate handouts (they are) than advancing a Socialist agenda like single-payer health care and other schemes. The trouble is that this attitude is great in ginning up support in Leftist intellectual ghettos like Seattle and San Francisco and Portland but it does nothing to attract swing voters in swing states, the sort of voters that Trump picked up in 2016. And with the Electoral College being a thing, it doesn't matter if California or Washington state votes 99 percent against him, Trump just needs to win 50.1 percent of the vote in the swing states. It's amazing that the Democrats aren't recognizing this fact. Or if they do, they're not advertising it.

 

 

 

A lot can happen between now and 2020.  Anyhow, I wouldn't be too hopeful about Trump in 2020 considering that his approval rating seems to float around 40-45%.  Looking back at previous elections, those numbers do not bode well for his re-election chances.

[Xlucine]

30 minutes ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

 

WTF is going on with the eyebrows on the lady behind him

[Sturgeon]

We have the best President lol

[Walter_Sobchak]

 

I'm not even sure what this is supposed to convey.  

[Sturgeon]

John McNaughton is the American DaVinci?

[Donward]

He is truly an American treasure...

 

 

[Mogensthegreat]

CNN still doesn't understand many things about Trump, shockingly.

[Sturgeon]

1 hour ago, Mogensthegreat said:

CNN still doesn't understand many things about Trump, shockingly.

 

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The sources familiar with Trump's thinking also told Bash

 

what in the fuck

 

[Walter_Sobchak]

18 hours ago, Donward said:

He is truly an American treasure...

 

 

 

So basically, he thinks that everyone that does not like Trump is against American prosperity.  What a douchebag.

[Sturgeon]

17 minutes ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

 

So basically, he thinks that everyone that does not like Trump is against American prosperity.  What a douchebag.

 

Yes, but he's a douchebag who says hilarious shit and makes sappy, heavy-handed paintings depicting crazy shit from the alternate universe that lives in his head.

[Jeeps_Guns_Tanks]

1 hour ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

 

So basically, he thinks that everyone that does not like Trump is against American prosperity.  What a douchebag.

 

At least one is, Bill Marr, is hoping for a recession because he thinks Trump's economy is too good to get rid of him otherwise. Maybe he watches Marr.   I mean as impossible as that seems, some people, somewhere, must still watch Marr. 

[Walter_Sobchak]

On 8/1/2018 at 8:16 PM, Sturgeon said:

 

Yes, but he's a douchebag who says hilarious shit and makes sappy, heavy-handed paintings depicting crazy shit from the alternate universe that lives in his head.

So basically, make America kitsch again?

[Collimatrix]

[Donward]

But muh Blue Wave!!!

 

Polling shows Republican challenger pulling even with anti-Trump Democrat in Solid Blue Oregon Gubernatorial Race

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/25/republican-challenger-pulls-even-with-anti-trump-democrat-in-solid-blue-oregons-governors-race-poll.html

 

I cited the July 25 FoxNews article just for ease, there are other publications that have run similar stories. 

 

Per RealClearPolitics and their polling. A Gravis poll has Republican challenger Knute Buehler in a tie with incumbent Democrat governor Kate Brown in Oregon.

 

IN OREGON!!!

 

Another polling group (A Republican one it seems) has the challenger up by a point. 

http://cloutpolitical.com/poll-or-governor-race-in-statistical-tie-with-gop-challenger-buehler-holding-slight-edge/

 

IN OREGON!!!

 

The particulars of the Gravis poll are interesting in that 47 percent of likely Oregon voters are LESS likely to support a congressional candidate if it meant that Nancy Pelosi would be Speaker of the House and only 19 percent more likely.

 

In contrast, 44 percent of likely Oregon voters are LESS likely to support a candidate if it meant helping Trump and 43 percent were more likely to support a candidate if it meant helping the President.

 

IN FUCKING OREGON!!!

 

The poll consisted of 770 likely voters, 47 percent of whom voted for Hillary Clinton and only 41 percent who voted for Trump.

 

...

 

The takeaway? I can't take seriously the notion of a BLUE WAVE sweeping the country if Oregon is polling in favor of a Republican winning the state's gubernatorial race. 

[Ramlaen]

Brown became governor because her predecessor had a bout of insanity, I don't think she would have won the Dem primary under normal circumstances.

[Donward]

The Left STILL hasn't learned the lesson of 2016.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/the-progressives-plan-to-win-in-2018/566825/

 

 The first Netroots Nation conference in a Trump-era election year opened with not one, not two, but five keynote speakers of color, all of whom underlined the potential of a “multiracial coalition” of voters made up of African Americans, Latinos, Asian Americans, and progressive whites. Their prescription for taking back the House in the November mid-terms was not winning back Trump voters, but expanding the electorate. “Our swing voter is not red to blue,” Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the 28-year-old Bronx Democrat who upset Democratic Caucus Chair Joe Crowley in a June primary, told an audience of progressive activists on Saturday. “It's non-voter to voter.”

 

It is a telling lede paragraph where the Netroots activists don't even give a damn that blue collar, working class, and lower class white voters - who used to be solid Democrat votes even as late as 2008 and 2012 - are no longer welcome among Capital "A" African Americans, Capital "L" Latinos, Capital "A" Asian Americans. Lower-case whites need not enter.

 

Also... if you have five keynote speakers, doesn't that by definition mean they are no longer keynote speakers? *Shrug*

 

Democrats have been grappling with key questions about coalition building since the 2016 election: Should they prioritize winning back the voters they lost to Trump? Should they attempt to woo the white voters gradually fleeing the party? Progressives this weekend said, emphatically, no.

 

I guess the Progressives aren't interested in winning back mid-west swing states then.

 

On Saturday, the final night of this year’s Netroots conference, a small group of young protesters from the “Black-Ass Caucus” took to the stage. “We will no longer be tokenized by so-called white allies,” one man shouted to the audience. Another protester, a young woman, criticized progressives who speak about economics and class, without mentioning race. “Everything—including class issues—are built on race issues!” she yelled into the microphone.

 

So not only is the Left marginalizing itself from mainstream America, at the same time it is tearing itself apart on the fringes. It is telling that the Big Plan is to get minorities who voted for Obama but stayed home for Hillary back in the voting booth. While at the same time the Netroots conference is being protested by minorities - like the Black-Ass Caucus - who (I'd wager) voted for Obama but did not vote for Hillary. These Democrats are banking on turning out these disaffected fringe types to come back home when instead they are out protesting and shouting at a far-Left Progressive event that they have no interest in voting for mainstream Democratic candidate.

 

 

[Donward]

In other news that is not surprising to anyone...

 

https://nypost.com/2018/08/04/how-twitter-is-fueling-the-democratic-agenda/

 

Federal records reveal 80 percent of Twitter’s corporate PAC contributions in the 2018 election cycle have gone to Democratic candidates, none of whom are moderates. Liberal Democrats also got top dollar in the 2016 race.

 

...

 

Twitter CEO and co-founder Jack Dorsey also donates only to Democrats. And in 2017, he and executive chairman Omid Kordestani together donated $530,000 to the ACLU to fight Trump’s executive order imposing a temporary travel ban on immigrants from high-risk Muslim countries, which Dorsey called “upsetting” but which the Supreme Court recently ruled constitutional. All told, Twitter gave $1.6 million to the anti-Trump ban effort.

 

...

 

Then there’s former Twitter CEO, current board director and major stakeholder Evan Williams. He’s shelled out more than $600,000 for the Democratic Party and Democrats running for federal office, FEC records show. Meantime, he has stiffed Republicans and the GOP.

What’s more, Evans in the past two presidential races pumped an additional $750,000 into Priorities USA Action — the largest Democratic Party super PAC — which contributes to leftist groups to help them turn out the vote for Democrats. Priorities USA is heavily funded by billionaire Trump-hater George Soros.

 

...

 

And in unrelated news...

 

Twitter stock plunges 21% after earnings show effects of fake-account purge

 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/twitter-shares-slide-16-after-fake-account-purge-new-rules-in-europe-2018-07-27

 

Their stock is down from $46.65 as of July 6 to $31.96 as of Aug 3.

 

Let 'em eat cake.

[Ramlaen]

3 hours ago, Donward said:

“Our swing voter is not red to blue,” Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the 28-year-old Bronx Democrat who upset Democratic Caucus Chair Joe Crowley in a June primary, told an audience of progressive activists on Saturday. “It's non-voter to voter.

 

 

Non-voter meaning imported voter, whether they can actually vote legally or not.

[Walter_Sobchak]

19 minutes ago, Ramlaen said:

 

Non-voter meaning imported voter, whether they can actually vote legally or not.

 

I suppose you have evidence that thousands of non-citizens are somehow voting?  If so, you have better information than Trump's failed "voter fraud commission" which managed to uncover diddly squat.

[Walter_Sobchak]

Meanwhile, Trump plainly states on Twitter that his campaign did the thing everyone is accusing them of having done. 

 

"Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!"

[Sturgeon]

This morning that I decided Trump is in fact an important civil rights figure. The things people are getting upset about are almost always related to things he says, and those things are bad. But see, that's actually the point: Trump got elected President to accomplish the same thing Obama did. Yet, where Obama closed the lid on whether it's OK to be black or not, Trump closed the lid on saying anything you want whenever you want. 

After all, if the President of the fucking United States can tweet buffoonish, inflammatory, and often nonsensical statements, then literally anyone else in American can too. Truly, he has carried the standard, carved out the censors, and beaten back the busybodies, and proven that it's OK to say crazy, dumb, and offensive shit. When the President tweets out "Despite the constant negative press covfefe", he's in fact liberating us all to make logical fallacies every once in a while without being pilloried for it. When Trump calls the dictator of a nuclear power names, he's actually breaking the chains of bondage around the wrists and ankles of people who sometimes use the wrong pronouns. When the Donald uses all caps and threatens Iran, he's really leading those who are just really stressed out this week and didn't mean to call you a faggot, OK? out of the desert and into the Promised Land.

 

What a time to be alive.

[Walter_Sobchak]

25 minutes ago, Sturgeon said:

This morning that I decided Trump is in fact an important civil rights figure. The things people are getting upset about are almost always related to things he says, and those things are bad. But see, that's actually the point: Trump got elected President to accomplish the same thing Obama did. Yet, where Obama closed the lid on whether it's OK to be black or not, Trump closed the lid on saying anything you want whenever you want. 

After all, if the President of the fucking United States can tweet buffoonish, inflammatory, and often nonsensical statements, then literally anyone else in American can too. Truly, he has carried the standard, carved out the censors, and beaten back the busybodies, and proven that it's OK to say crazy, dumb, and offensive shit. When the President tweets out "Despite the constant negative press covfefe", he's in fact liberating us all to make logical fallacies every once in a while without being pilloried for it. When Trump calls the dictator of a nuclear power names, he's actually breaking the chains of bondage around the wrists and ankles of people who sometimes use the wrong pronouns. When the Donald uses all caps and threatens Iran, he's really leading those who are just really stressed out this week and didn't mean to call you a faggot, OK? out of the desert and into the Promised Land.

 

What a time to be alive.

 

Thats....one way to look at it, yes.