politics Post Election Thread: Democracy Dies In Darkness And You Can Help

[Walter_Sobchak]

4 minutes ago, Donward said:

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The President is exercising his exevutive powers as outlined by Article 2 of the Constitution. In fact the President would be derelict in his duty allowing these unelected bureaucrats to continue to hold - and profit - from their security clearances given the political environment where there is an open plot to overturn a legal US election and to thwart the will of the American public.

 

As far as I can tell, Brennan is retired and not profiting in any way from his security clearance.  Also, that's not why Trump took away the clearance.  He did it to punish Brennan for speaking out against the President, something he has the total right to do.  But then, commitment to free speech seems to be a pretty weakly held conviction around here when ya'll are defending a president who echoes the words of French Jacobins, Stalin and Mao with "the enemy of the people."

 

 

 

 

[Walter_Sobchak]

2 hours ago, Donward said:

 

Exactly.

 

Which leaves only two logical choices as to what is governing their behavior.

 

Either they are incompetent lacking the emotional intelligence to be able to recognize an obvious joke. In which case we don’t want them anywhere in the chain of command interpreting gathered intel which is all about gauging human emotions.

 

Or else they are deliberately misleading the American public by feigning outrage over a joke.

 

Incompetence or malevolence. Or both. Those are the only choices.

 

Pretty sure that "must possess a great sense of humor" is not generally part of the job requirements for an intelligence officer. 

 

The "it was only a joke" defense is a pretty damn thin reed to cling onto.  It generally doesn't work when it comes to jobs, or wives and certainly not with judges.  Certainly, we should hold the POTUS to at least that same standard.

[Donward]

6 minutes ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

 

Pretty sure that "must possess a great sense of humor" is not generally part of the job requirements for an intelligence officer. 

 

The "it was only a joke" defense is a pretty damn thin reed to cling onto.  It generally doesn't work when it comes to jobs, or wives and certainly not with judges.  Certainly, we should hold the POTUS to at least that same standard.

 

This entire “Russian Collusion” narrative began when candidate Trump made a joke about the Russians finding Hillary’s mysteriously missing emails from her illegal server.

 

It was a joke told millions of times across the country before Trump issued the one-liner.

 

But since Hillary was the butt of the joke, of course the Obama Administrations intel team had to use the full scope of the federal government to get to the heart of the matter.

[Jeeps_Guns_Tanks]

39 minutes ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

 

As far as I can tell, Brennan is retired and not profiting in any way from his security clearance.  Also, that's not why Trump took away the clearance.  He did it to punish Brennan for speaking out against the President, something he has the total right to do.  But then, commitment to free speech seems to be a pretty weakly held conviction around here when ya'll are defending a president who echoes the words of French Jacobins, Stalin and Mao with "the enemy of the people."

 

 

 

 

Lol what a bunch of horse shit. Brennan is still making an ass put himself every damn day using his right to free speach. The only thing that changed is his clearance.  

 

You don't have a right to security clearance. And not having one doesn't effect your rights.  

 

And this is the 'free speech' the left wants to protect. Why they actually try and restrict it.

[Walter_Sobchak]

27 minutes ago, Donward said:

 

This entire “Russian Collusion” narrative began when candidate Trump made a joke about the Russians finding Hillary’s mysteriously missing emails from her illegal server.

 

It was a joke told millions of times across the country before Trump issued the one-liner.

 

But since Hillary was the butt of the joke, of course the Obama Administrations intel team had to use the full scope of the federal government to get to the heart of the matter.

 

The investigation is about the role of foreign hackers in trying to influence the 2016 election.  It did not start because of Trump's "joke".  However, this "joke" certainly looked a bit suspicious when combined with all the other circumstantial evidence linking his campaign to Russian hackers.  

[Lostwingman]

1 hour ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

 

foreign hackers

 

Is that why the CIA report just talked about "twitter bots" and facebook ads? "Hacking" as a term has been utterly destroyed as a useful descriptor. Right up there with "glitch" nowadays.

[Ramlaen]

Ohr wrote that Christopher Steele, the ex-British spy who wrote the salacious dossier, was "very concerned (abt) about [former FBI Director James] Comey's firing -- afraid they will be exposed."

[Belesarius]

So much for the parade.

 

https://www.cp24.com/world/trump-blames-dc-as-military-parade-plans-unravel-over-costs-1.4057912

[Jeeps_Guns_Tanks]

4 hours ago, Ramlaen said:

Ohr wrote that Christopher Steele, the ex-British spy who wrote the salacious dossier, was "very concerned (abt) about [former FBI Director James] Comey's firing -- afraid they will be exposed."

 

 

Yeah, more evidence the FBI went third world police force under Obama, big surprise to no one who was paying any attention at all. 

[Ramlaen]

Now Brennan is trying to walk back accusing Trump of treason.

[Donward]

27 minutes ago, Ramlaen said:

Now Brennan is trying to walk back accusing Trump of treason.

 

And meanwhile his ilk are trying to overthrow our government and nullify the results of a lawful US election and the will of the American public.

[Ulric]

34 minutes ago, Ramlaen said:

Now Brennan is trying to walk back accusing Trump of treason.

 

I didn't say he committed treason, I said that his actions were nothing less than treason, those two things are completely different! 

[Legiondude]

40 minutes ago, Ulric said:

 

I didn't say he committed treason, I said that his actions were nothing less than treason, those two things are completely different! 

Almost seems to imply that you can be subconsciously treasonous.

[LoooSeR]

Pictured - Russians hacking US elections, 2016.

[Ulric]

1 hour ago, LoooSeR said:

Pictured - Russians hacking US elections, 2016. *Colorized*

 

FIFY

[LoooSeR]

3 minutes ago, Ulric said:

 

FIFY

More like "pixelized". 

[Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect]

 

 

Just got around to watching this. It's hilarious.

[Sturgeon]

Establishment Democrats really do have a different concept of "the law" then most Republican voters, and I think that's probably one of the biggest gaps between them.

[Mogensthegreat]

On 8/17/2018 at 8:04 AM, Legiondude said:

Remind me again why these people have National Security clearances after they're no longer employed by the Big G?

 

Oh, so it's not the Russians, it's the Dutch under @Bronezhilet puppeting the US? 

[LoooSeR]

 

[Sgt.Squarehead]

When gets to the point that the shills are pointing out the shills, you know the American left is well & truly fucked:

 

https://theintercept.com/2018/08/18/mike-capuano-ayanna-pressley-massachusetts-primary/

 

I don't know which to trust less, the candidate or the article.....You decide. 

 

On ‎8‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 10:50 PM, Ramlaen said:

Ohr wrote that Christopher Steele, the ex-British spy who wrote the salacious dossier, was "very concerned (abt) about [former FBI Director James] Comey's firing -- afraid they will be exposed."

 

Maybe ask Sergei Skripal how that whole thing turned out. 

 

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/07/the-silence-of-the-whores/

 

PS - There is no such thing as an 'ex-spy', British or otherwise. 

[Donward]

If you quote John Locke, Adam Smith, Milton Friedman or any classical liberal; or if you like Led Zeppelin or classic rock... you’re a RACIST!!!!!!!!

 

So sez this Huffington Post genius.

 

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b6b232ee4b0fd5c73dff019

 

He doesn’t explain WHY you are a racist, you just ARE you pathetic, deplorable peasant!!!

[Sturgeon]

"Dave Rubin is a right-wing racist!"

 

"I'm so far left that I'm out of touch? Preposterous!"

 

Also this bit is particularly Orwellian:

 

"Whatever classical liberals say about their ideas, in practice they have always functioned as a respectable intellectual veneer for authoritarian politics."

[Lord_James]

2 hours ago, Donward said:

or classic rock... you’re a RACIST!!!!!!!!

 

does this count? 

 

 

[Donward]

1 hour ago, Lord_James said:

 

does this count? 

 

 

 

Wanna know a secret?

 

Only white kids listened to Hendrix back in the day. Black kids listened to MoTown labels.

 

Trufax

 

NOW you’re experienced.