FORMATOSE Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Quote After the introduction of the M1A1, some additional modifications were considered as Block product improvements. Approved by the Army Vice Chief of Staff on 1 February 1985 and reevaluated in August of that year, some of these changes were scheduled for incorporation into the M1A1 production tanks starting in late 1988. With these new features, the tank was nicknamed the M1A1+. Improved armor protection was obtained with a new special armor incorporating depleted uranium. This feature was introduced into the M1A1 production starting in October 1988. The new armor greatly increased the penetration resistance particularly against kinetic energy rounds. On 14 December 1988, General Dynamics Land Systems Division was awarded a contract for the full scale development of the improved Abrams. Scheduled for fielding in 1992, this vehicle, to be designated as the 120mm gun tank M1A2. R. P. Hunnicutt, Abrams: A History of the American Main Battle Tank, Vol. 2 chebuRUSHka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chebuRUSHka Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, Sovngard said: R. P. Hunnicutt, Abrams: A History of the American Main Battle Tank, Vol. 2 Thanks. So am I right assuming this M1A1+ had better frontal protection than the M1A1HC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Please share this sort of thing by PM in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That’s Suspicious Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize I wasn't allowed to do that. Won't do it again. chebuRUSHka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Quote 1941 dramatized Technicolor training/recruitment film produced by Warner Brothers for the U.S. Army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Xlucine Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 The description for the M2 med is a bit off - I can't find any mention of .50's ever being fitted, only the 8 .30 cal MGs. The weight is way off too, they were 20 tons not 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ramlaen Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I am wondering if that Task&Purpose article had some truth to it and the M1A2's that were deployed to eastern NATO members are SEPv2's with the RWS removed. I did like the original incarnation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I want to know which APS is being tested. Quote Ground Combat System officials have also just finished an armored protection system, or APS, upgrade to an M1 that will soon go into testing, Bassett said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade334 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 48 minutes ago, Ramlaen said: I want to know which APS is being tested. Wasn't it always supposed to be Trophy-HV for M1, Iron Fist for Bradley/Stryker/other APCs and Iron Curtain for Humvees and whatever remains? I'm more interested in whether they are anywhere close to trying out that autoloader experiment (probably Meggitt's AL; the XM91 was most likely tailored for the CATTB turret rather than the base M1A1) that they hinted at a couple weeks ago. Sounds very ambitious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 In Hebrew, but it says the Trophy was tested. http://www.israeldefense.co.il/he/node/28700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ramlaen Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Mighty_Zuk said: That is a different mounting bracket on the turret side than the old TUSK 2 pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Interesting. I wonder why it was changed. Skirt-mounted armor seems to be fairly prone to falling off in the field, perhaps that had something to do with it. Also interesting that the skirt armor does not cover the hull sponsons at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Walter_Sobchak Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Ramlaen said: Is it just me or does that look like a Spanish tile roof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade334 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 @Collimatrix: They probably expect Trophy-HV to "plug" that hole. @Walter_Sobchak: You're not the first one to make that observation. The M32 ARAT-2 has to be one of the thinnest ERA packages I've ever seen. @Ramlaen: do you have a source for the pics? EDIT: no high-res pics, but more details on the mounting process: https://www.army.mil/article/183479/1st_bn_66th_armor_regt_install_abram_reactive_armor_tiles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Renegade334 said: @Ramlaen: do you have a source for the pics? https://m.facebook.com/1st-Battalion-66th-Armor-Regiment-Iron-Knights-243233719060040/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade334 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Ah, Facebook. I was suspecting it was either a Twitter or FB post, since I couldn't find HR pics on army.mil (they really need to build some sort of unified news dashboard... ) or their Flickr account. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Putin hacked truck and it tried to destroy America. Or Abrams tank. Ramlaen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renegade334 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 @ 2:03 Looks like USAR is sending its ERA (from base to base) through DHL... Isn't that a violation of the ToS? ... ...Yes, I know those are most likely inert ERA tiles or mockups built for formation/training. I just needed a small chuckle this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronezhilet Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, Renegade334 said: @ 2:03 Looks like USAR is sending its ERA (from base to base) through DHL... Isn't that a violation of the ToS? ... ...Yes, I know those are most likely inert ERA tiles or mockups built for formation/training. I just needed a small chuckle this morning. Why would that be? DHL can transport Class 1 Explosives, although it does not ship "Munitions of War". ERA isn't a type of ammunition, so they'll ship it. Actually, ERA will be in the safest category since it's extremely insensitive (Class 1.6N). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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