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There are now six companies competing to put a 30mm turret on A1 Strykers.

 

General Dynamics Land Systems

Kollsman, Inc.

Leonardo DRS

Raytheon

Pratt & Miller Engineering and Fabrication, Inc.

EOS Defense Systems USA, Inc.

 

https://www.defensenews.com/land/2019/06/20/following-protest-army-awards-6th-contract-for-upgunned-stryker-design/

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54 minutes ago, Ramlaen said:

There are now six companies competing to put a 30mm turret on A1 Strykers.

 

General Dynamics Land Systems

Kollsman, Inc.

Leonardo DRS

Raytheon

Pratt & Miller Engineering and Fabrication, Inc.

EOS Defense Systems USA, Inc.

 

https://www.defensenews.com/land/2019/06/20/following-protest-army-awards-6th-contract-for-upgunned-stryker-design/

Will EOS, Raytheon, and Leonardo be competing as individual companies, or are teamups allowed?

Because it would only seem natural to me that Elbit and Rafael would want a piece of that cake, especially considering how Rafael constantly shows its turret on a Stryker in its marketing material.

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1 hour ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

Will EOS, Raytheon, and Leonardo be competing as individual companies, or are teamups allowed?

Because it would only seem natural to me that Elbit and Rafael would want a piece of that cake, especially considering how Rafael constantly shows its turret on a Stryker in its marketing material.

 

I would be surprised if Elbit and Rafael were not partnering with a competitor.

For example, GDLS is almost guarenteed to be working with Kongsberg.

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1 hour ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

Because it would only seem natural to me that Elbit and Rafael would want a piece of that cake, especially considering how Rafael constantly shows its turret on a Stryker in its marketing material.

 

Kollsman Inc. is a wholy-owned subsidiary of Elbit Systems.

 

https://elbitsystems.com/corporate-overview-major-subsidiaries/

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1 hour ago, SH_MM said:

 

Kollsman Inc. is a wholy-owned subsidiary of Elbit Systems.

 

https://elbitsystems.com/corporate-overview-major-subsidiaries/

That's interesting. Recent news in Israeli media talked about a recently created vacuum in the US MIC, I believe following the merger of United Technologies with Raytheon, that specifically Elbit wanted to exploit. 

If they can produce turrets in Kollsman facilities, as well as their key market - avionics, then I wonder what market niche it is they want to occupy so desperately.

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https://www.fbo.gov/index.php?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=33ff7f472a30693dfc55ece72bc26199&tab=core&_cview=0

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The purpose of this RFI is to request information on interested and capable sources for potential award(s) of a contract or contracts related to affordable and mature uncooled Long Wave Infrared (LWIR) sensors with wide Field of View (FOV), capable of providing high definition video to support driving military vehicles. The desired product must be able to be fully integrated into Ground Combat Vehicles while observing typical space and operational requirements.  LWIR sensors play a critical role in the movement of units in the military and have become an integral part of the warfighter's current vehicle capabilities. LWIR sensors allow warfighters to continue their mission, with minimized loss of efficiency during day and night time operations. The current Driver's Vision Enhancer (DVE) has a 640 × 480 sensor format, and narrow 40 degree × 30 degree field of view (FOV), much lower than the pixel count of state-of-the-art uncooled LWIR cameras (up to 1920 × 1200). This RFI seeks to identify an affordable solution to support 360º LSA using high definition LWIR cameras. The proposed sensors should be technologically mature, meeting or exceeding Technology Readiness Level (TRL) 6, and must also have a plan for qualification testing within 12 months after receipt of order (ARO).

In addition to UCIR sensors, this RFI seeks to find accompanying color visible and near infrared (NIR) (400 - 700+ nm) cameras with FOV and coverage matching those of the infrared sensors.

 

1. Objectives:
o Determine technically mature (TRL 6+) wide FOV uncooled long wavelength infrared (LWIR) and color visible/NIR sensors that provide local situational awareness (LSA) for driving military vehicles.
o Determine feasibility of delivering at least one UCIR and one color visible/NIR sensors within 6 months after receipt of order (ARO).

 

2. Description of Requirements:
Responses are requested for those sources that have the existing capability or plans to develop and deliver the requested information in the RFI with the characteristics meeting or exceeding those below:

 

2.1 Operational Requirements
The proposed system must provide a capability to allow the vehicle crew (driver, commander, squad), in both open and closed hatch operations, to visualize their immediate surroundings while stationary and on the move, day and night. In addition, it must cover at least 120 degree horizontal and 36 degree vertical, with a 3m ground intercept, have an instantaneous FOV of 1.1 mrad or better, and a 70% probability of detection out to 225m (T) 500m (O) of a NATO man-sized object.
Other operational requirements include:
- Sensor latency 25 msec (T) and 16 msec (O)
- Uncooled LWIR sensor (T) and color visible/NIR camera (O).
- Color visible/NIR sensors should have similar FOV, latency, frame rate, pixel resolution (1920 × 1200) as the UCIR sensors.

2.2 Electrical, Mechanical, and Interface requirements
The interested parties must be able to demonstrate that the proposed system (UCIR and color visible/NIR sensors) is compatible with the specifications of typical ground combat vehicles and video network architecture, including:
- 28 VDC vehicle power input (T) and MIL-STD-1275-E compatible (O).
- High-bandwidth digital video output interface (Camera Link or GigE).
- Raw imagery output capability.
- 30 Hz framerate or faster.
- 1280 × 1024 (T) or 1920 × 1200 (O) pixel resolution.
- Power consumption for each individual sensor in the system must be less than 2 ADC at 28 VDC.

2.3 Environmental requirements
UCIR and Daytime Sensors must:
- Be operable between the temperature range of -40 to +50 degree C.
- Comply with MIL-STD-810 (shock, vibration, humidity, and altitude).
- Be at TRL 6 or above.

2.4 Schedule requirements
Interested parties must be capable of delivering at least one individual sensor within 6 months ARO, for evaluation purposes.

 

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Guys, can somebody tell about MBT-70 armor components?

Developer Var Thunder from Gaijin made his reservation on the "armor - air - armor" scheme.

But I read somewhere that the composition of his armor is still secret. And that there was not air. Is there any information about this?
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Found this picture. It says that the composition of the armor consists of steel, aluminum, fiberglass and more steel.
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1 hour ago, Karamazov said:

Guys, can somebody tell about MBT-70 armor components?

 

The spaced armor of the MBT-70 is just steel + air + steel. Originally the US Army didn't really want spaced armor, but Germany insisted on it to reduce weight while maintaining the desired level of protection.

 

At the interior there is a layer of plastic (polyethylene) to absorb neutron radiation. It is rather thick, but doesn't add any noteworthy amount of protection. Armor of the MBT-70 was rather poor compared to something like the T-64. The overall thickness of the turret front is comparable to the Leopard 2K/PT tanks.

 

U19keMb.jpg

 

That the MBT-70 contained ceramics, aluminium etc. seems to be based on the blatantly incorrect Wikipedia article to Chobham armor, which also claims that the Leopard 1A3 has "foamed ceramics" filling the empty space of its spaced armor. This is also wrong.

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, SH_MM said:

That the MBT-70 contained ceramics, aluminium etc. seems to be based on the blatantly incorrect Wikipedia article to Chobham armor, which also claims that the Leopard 1A3 has "foamed ceramics" filling the empty space of its spaced armor. This is also wrong.

 

Thanks, now I got it

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https://www.baesystems.com/en-us/article/us-marine-corps-awards-bae-systems-contract-to-develop-acv-family-vehicles

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BAE Systems, along with teammate Iveco Defence Vehicles, has been awarded a $67 million contract modification by the U.S. Marine Corps to develop new variants for the Amphibious Combat Vehicle (ACV) Family of Vehicles program for enhancing battlefield situational awareness and firepower.

The contract calls for the design and development of the command (ACV-C) and the 30mm medium caliber cannon (ACV-30) variants. The ACV-C incorporates seven work stations to provide situational awareness and control of the battle space. The ACV-30 integrates a 30mm cannon to provide the lethality and protection the Marines need while leaving ample room for troop capacity and payload. BAE Systems was previously awarded a low-rate initial production contract in June 2018 for the personnel variant (ACV-P)

 

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9 minutes ago, juretrn said:

Will this potential deal "offend the feelings of the Chinese people" ?

 

Speaking in Beijing on Tuesday, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said U.S. arms sales to Taiwan were a serious violation of international law and a "crude interference in China’s internal affairs, harming China’s sovereignty and security interests."

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On 6/20/2019 at 12:02 PM, Ramlaen said:

There are now six companies competing to put a 30mm turret on A1 Strykers.

 

General Dynamics Land Systems

Kollsman, Inc.

Leonardo DRS

Raytheon

Pratt & Miller Engineering and Fabrication, Inc.

EOS Defense Systems USA, Inc.

 

https://www.defensenews.com/land/2019/06/20/following-protest-army-awards-6th-contract-for-upgunned-stryker-design/

 

Leonardo DRS's RIwP turret with an XM813, M240, Javelin and IBAS sight

 

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