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On 29.11.2017 at 4:31 PM, LoooSeR said:

Hail Hwasong-15, destroyer of the California (and around half of US).

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and it is on top of 18-wheel truck.

https://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/682195.html

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   The missile was launched along the steepest trajectory, estimated at the launch of the Hwaseong-15 trajectory standard for intercontinental ballistic missiles, will fly about 13,000 km. Well, the rocket is really very large, much larger than the "Hwaseong-14", so they used a nine-axle chassis.

 

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1 hour ago, Xlucine said:

A new missile, and a new truck! Wonder where it came from?

Pyongsong at the March 16 Factory. They produce or just upgrade their chinese "Lumber trucks" there to T/Es not TELs. It`s the same truck for the Hwasong 14 but with a new cab, an extra axle and another arm for erecting the missile.

I dont know if they still get those trucks from China or if they can produce the trucks themselves or if they only get some parts of it.

They appear to highly value those trucks, because they dont use them as TELs but only as T/Es so if the missile goes kablooie the truck is atleast safe.

 

The missile is maybe their successor to the Hwasong 14.

Maybe its the Hwasong 14 competitor.

We dont know the exact status of their missile development only that its their number one priority and that they have multiple different missile programs running.

It uses no verniers and has two instead of one nozzle. So they have 2 engines that can steer themselves via the gimbaled noozles.

The second stage is also bigger than the Hwasong 14 it has probably 4 R-27 instead of the 2 before that.

But that is speculation what type of engine they use or how many. Esp. the engines of the second stage because you dont see the nozzles.

 

So you could say the Soviet union and China helped the DPRK but the R-27 sale is 25 years back and the Lumber Truck sale happened in 2012 or even earlier.

The biggest leap they got probably form their ability to produce isogrid airframes. And who sold them those Machining tools is unknown. Maybe China.

 

Sources: https://www.nknews.org/2017/11/north-korea-releases-photographs-of-new-hwasong-15-icbm/?c=1511998167404

                http://www.38north.org/2017/11/melleman113017/

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7 minutes ago, Willy Brandt said:

Pyongsong at the March 16 Factory. They produce or just upgrade their chinese "Lumber trucks" there to T/Es not TELs. It`s the same truck for the Hwasong 14 but with a new cab, an extra axle and another arm for erecting the missile.

I dont know if they still get those trucks from China or if they can produce the trucks themselves or if they only get some parts of it.

They appear to highly value those trucks, because they dont use them as TELs but only as T/Es so if the missile goes kablooie the truck is atleast safe.

 

The missile is maybe their successor to the Hwasong 14.

Maybe its the Hwasong 14 competitor.

We dont know the exact status of their missile development only that its their number one priority and that they have multiple different missile programs running.

It uses no verniers and has two instead of one nozzle. So they have 2 engines that can steer themselves via the gimbaled noozles.

The second stage is also bigger than the Hwasong 14 it has probably 4 R-27 instead of the 2 before that.

But that is speculation what type of engine they use or how many. Esp. the engines of the second stage because you dont see the nozzles.

 

So you could say the Soviet union and China helped the DPRK but the R-27 sale is 25 years back and the Lumber Truck sale happened in 2012 or even earlier.

The biggest leap they got probably form their ability to produce isogrid airframes. And who sold them those Machining tools is unknown. Maybe China.

 

Sources: https://www.nknews.org/2017/11/north-korea-releases-photographs-of-new-hwasong-15-icbm/?c=1511998167404

                http://www.38north.org/2017/11/melleman113017/

Not anlways, they use them as proper launch vehicles several times.

 

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2 minutes ago, LoooSeR said:

Not anlways, they use them as proper launch vehicles several times.

 

Not those super heavy Chinese import lumber trucks. But those are only used for the Hwasong 14 and 15.

For the other shorter range one i am not so sure which one they use i think some Belarussian ones.

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17 hours ago, Willy Brandt said:

Not those super heavy Chinese import lumber trucks. But those are only used for the Hwasong 14 and 15.

For the other shorter range one i am not so sure which one they use i think some Belarussian ones.

one of last Hwasong-14 launches were made from that truck. IIRC I even posted Yuri Lyamin's article in this thread that noted changes in how they were launching Hwasong-14 and this chages he interpreted as increase in missile reliability.

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40 minutes ago, LoooSeR said:

one of last Hwasong-14 launches were made from that truck. IIRC I even posted Yuri Lyamin's article in this thread that noted changes in how they were launching Hwasong-14 and this chages he interpreted as increase in missile reliability.

The 4th or 20th of July one? Because the pictures all just show the launch table after the Truck erected them and then left.

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