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1 hour ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

So this is where we will get to post all those pictures of burned out Leo 2's belonging to Turkey?  Cool.

No. 

Leopard-2 are from Germain brains, so we can continue to polluted Germain’s topic with such photos. 

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20 minutes ago, Stimpy75 said:

rly? Altay? a little more research plz!

Altay didn´t see any combat. there are just prototypes and serial production will start soon i hope.

 

 

The video is quite grainy, but it really does look like an Altay.  Look at how far back the turret is on the hull, and how it has the large object on top of the turret.  Turkish Leo 2s are older models with the GPS built into the front of the turret, no?

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I am afraid you have fallen to the propaganda of those gote rapists! 

Just Altay Prototypes(4) 

no combat employment. 

Afrin operation was at the beginning 2018 i.e winter and Afrin is more mountainous and more vegetation. They just recycled old footage to show how badass they are. More like dumbasses. They even stole footage of daesh. 

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https://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/989706.html

 

Turkey signed a contract for 250 Altay tanks. There will be 2 phases of production and there is 3rd phase planned for later development.

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  Altai-T1 (40 tanks)
  - APS
  - Armor by company "Roketsan".

 

  Altai-T2 (210 tanks)
  - Improved armor/protection
  - Ammunition isolation
  - Ability to work with guided weapons [GL-ATGMs ?]
  - Crew training mode
  - mobile camouflage net

 

  Altai-T3
  - Tank with unmanned turret

 

http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2018/11/250-altay.html

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   Turkey begins mass production of domestic tanks Altay. The relevant contract for the production of the first 250 Turkish tanks was signed by representatives of the defense industry secretariat, the Turkish General Staff, the Anadolu agency reports.

   Present at the signing ceremony, the head of the secretariat of the defense industry of Turkey, Ismail Demir, said that the production of own tanks would allow Turkey to significantly reduce its dependence on supplies of equipment from abroad. In the armed forces, the Altay tank should eventually replace outdated and foreign equipment, thus becoming the main combat unit of the Turkish army. For 20 years, it is planned that the defense industry of Turkey will supply 1000 Altay MBT to the Armed Forces, which will significantly modernize tank units. The project is estimated at 25-30 billion dollars.

 

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1 hour ago, LoooSeR said:

https://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/989706.html

 

Turkey signed a contract for 250 Altay tanks. There will be 2 phases of production and there is 3rd phase planned for later development.

 

 

 

 

What size is Turkey's tank fleet currently?  Is that enough to, say, completely replace all their M60s?

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  "Altai-T2 (210 tanks)
  - Improved armor/protection
  - Ammunition isolation
  - Ability to work with guided weapons [GL-ATGMs ?]
  - Crew training mode
  - mobile camouflage net"

 

Soo the initial 40 vehicles will not have amunition isolation??

 

21 minutes ago, Sovngard said:

 

...but with what engine ?

Their indiginous engine efforts have been hampered, but AFAIK MTU is offering them a MTU 880/870?
https://www.mtu-online.com/mtu/anwendungen/militaerische-fahrzeuge/schwere-fahrzeuge-baureihe-870-880/index.de.html

 

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13 minutes ago, Zyklon said:

Soo the initial 40 vehicles will not have amunition isolation??

Based on what we've seen of the Altay, it has ammo to the sides of the driver, M60 style. Perhaps the new improved model is intended to incorporate the lessons of the fighting in Syria and avoid such catastrophic Kabooms as seen in M60s and Leopard 2s.

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3 hours ago, Collimatrix said:

 

What size is Turkey's tank fleet currently?  Is that enough to, say, completely replace all their M60s?

Most likely not. Turkey's plans were for 1,000 units of Altay tanks, spread across 4 tranches of 250 each. 

The M60 tanks are the core of their armored strength, so a single lot will not be enough. 

 

Only their elite force of Sabra tanks is about 170. 

 

They have a lot more tanks than just one thousand, but these new tanks should allow Turkey to maintain a cheaper, leaner, more technologically saturated, and more effective force.

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15 hours ago, Sovngard said:

 

...but with what engine ?

 

The most possible one is Perkins CV-12-1500 - upgraded Challenger 2's engine.

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