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Here's the thing, most conservatives I know are ardent anti-racists and have been their whole life. Judging others as individuals is a core part of their morality since they were young, imparted to th

Finally,  a Trump proposal I can support.

I am saying that.  If the Democrats want to remain competitive, they need to dig out decades worth of Chicago machine apparatchiks and Clinton lackeys and send them to the salt mines.  If the Republic

It's interesting to see my congressman, Justin Amash, in the national news.  Amash represents the 3rd congressional district of Michigan, which includes Grand Rapids, my home (the 3rd district used to be the 5th district, most famously represented by Gerald Ford.)  Amash is getting quite a bit of news coverage for being the first Republican congressman to call for the impeachment of Trump.  For those that have followed Amash, he has been a pretty consistent critic of Trump, so this is no surprise.  Anyhow, since I live in his district, I thought I might make some observations regarding his tenure as a representative.

 

One thing I found amusing was Republican House leader Kevin McCarthy attacking Amash as voting "more with Nancy Pelosi than he ever votes with me. It's a question whether he's even in our Republican conference as a whole."  This claim is pretty absurd.  Amash is extremely conservative, although in a more traditional, libertarian fashion than the current strain of Trumpian conservatism.  Conservative vote tracking groups give Amash scores of 90-100% conservative in terms of his voting record.  One thing I will say about his voting record, he is not afraid to take unpopular positions if he thinks something violates his libertarian principles.  There have been a few times where he has been either the only dissenting vote, or one of a handful of dissenters on certain bills he sees as flawed.  He came into office as part of the Tea Party movement, and is a founding member of the Freedom Caucus.

 

Based on my observations, he is well regarded in his own district for his adherence to his principles and his openness in explaining his votes (he has a fairly informative twitter feed).  He seems pretty immune to special interests, a rarity for congress critters.  More than once I have heard a liberal friend bemoan the fact that while they vehemently disagree with Amash's stand on issues, they respect his integrity.  I have never voted for him, and I don't plan to do so.  That said, I don't dislike him and respect the way he conducts himself as a representative.  Sometimes he may seem to be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.  He is much more fiscally conservative than the Republican party as a whole right now, having advocated for smaller defense budgets rather than larger ones. He certainly fits more in the Rand Paul version of Republicanism than the Trump iteration of the GOP.

 

One other thing I can say is that on the local level, his background as an Orthodox Christian of Palestinian and Syrian descent has never been an issue.  In fact, I suspect 99% of voters in the 3rd district have no idea what his ethnic background is.  It's only been in the past couple days since he has been in the national news that I have seen people mentioning it, typically in a derogatory way in comments sections.  

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

It's interesting to see my congressman, Justin Amash, in the national news.  Amash represents the 3rd congressional district of Michigan, which includes Grand Rapids, my home (the 3rd district used to be the 5th district, most famously represented by Gerald Ford.)  Amash is getting quite a bit of news coverage for being the first Republican congressman to call for the impeachment of Trump.  For those that have followed Amash, he has been a pretty consistent critic of Trump, so this is no surprise.  Anyhow, since I live in his district, I thought I might make some observations regarding his tenure as a representative.

 

One thing I found amusing was Republican House leader Kevin McCarthy attacking Amash as voting "more with Nancy Pelosi than he ever votes with me. It's a question whether he's even in our Republican conference as a whole."  This claim is pretty absurd.  Amash is extremely conservative, although in a more traditional, libertarian fashion than the current strain of Trumpian conservatism.  Conservative vote tracking groups give Amash scores of 90-100% conservative in terms of his voting record.  One thing I will say about his voting record, he is not afraid to take unpopular positions if he thinks something violates his libertarian principles.  There have been a few times where he has been either the only dissenting vote, or one of a handful of dissenters on certain bills he sees as flawed.  He came into office as part of the Tea Party movement, and is a founding member of the Freedom Caucus.

 

Based on my observations, he is well regarded in his own district for his adherence to his principles and his openness in explaining his votes (he has a fairly informative twitter feed).  He seems pretty immune to special interests, a rarity for congress critters.  More than once I have heard a liberal friend bemoan the fact that while they vehemently disagree with Amash's stand on issues, they respect his integrity.  I have never voted for him, and I don't plan to do so.  That said, I don't dislike him and respect the way he conducts himself as a representative.  Sometimes he may seem to be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.  He is much more fiscally conservative than the Republican party as a whole right now, having advocated for smaller defense budgets rather than larger ones. He certainly fits more in the Rand Paul version of Republicanism than the Trump iteration of the GOP.

 

One other thing I can say is that on the local level, his background as an Orthodox Christian of Palestinian and Syrian descent has never been an issue.  In fact, I suspect 99% of voters in the 3rd district have no idea what his ethnic background is.  It's only been in the past couple days since he has been in the national news that I have seen people mentioning it, typically in a derogatory way in comments sections.  

 

 

 

 

Why wouldn't he not be mentioned in a derogatory way, considering he is a Chinese prostitute.

 

A "Palestinian refugee" as member of congress who is a part owner in a company in another country(China), jeez i wonder who he represents more Hangzhou or Michigan.

 

People can observe that Trump does practically everything right, considering that China needs to activate foreign prostitutes to gain something in tariffs.

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@Pascal, you're strongly advised to tone it down a bit. Or indeed a lot. People are allowed to disagree with the Trumpen One for reasons other than being bought out by the PRC, which is quite a strong (read: dumb) claim to make with no supporting evidence.

Your SNR is terrible and you should feel bad.

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47 minutes ago, N-L-M said:

which is quite a strong (read: dumb) claim to make with no supporting evidence.

Your SNR is terrible and you should feel bad.

I mean someone who follows US politics, probably will know that from 2010.I don't have problems with his father, which in his time was producing tools really made in USA.

 

59 minutes ago, Bronezhilet said:

Fuck off.

That's a second.

 

49 minutes ago, Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect said:

Chinese prostitutes?

 

Mech.... Mech is that you?

Sorry, i don't know him.

 

48 minutes ago, Ramlaen said:

"Chinese prostitute" probably refers to Amash's ownership stake in a company that makes tools in China, imports them to the states and then sells them as made in America.

 

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2010/10/justin_amash_schedules_event_t.html

 

It's not even news really, stuffs from 2010. If i didn't see here the name Amash i wouldn't even post about this because of how old this is.

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Two scenarios on Trump-Russia investigators — and neither is comforting

 

They knew

One possibility to be considered is that top Obama administration officials knew all along there never was any real collusion or crime at play, but they manufactured the false Russia premise in order to justify their political spying.

Under this hypothetical scenario, they wanted to get inside information on the Trump campaign and, perhaps, gather dirt against the competition for blackmail or political purposes.

They didn’t know

If Mueller is correct and there was no collusion or even coordination between Russia and Trump, or any American, and if the Obama administration officials who insisted that was the case are not corrupt, then they collectively suffered from one of the most historically monumental cases of poor judgment in U.S. intelligence history.

Under this scenario, the seasoned experts entrusted to protect our national security committed the kind of bush-league mistakes that few novice investigators would make. They jumped to conclusions with no evidence. They let their own biases lead them down trails in the wrong direction. They misinterpreted evidence, misread people’s actions and barked up the wrong trees. They misconstrued exceedingly common business and political contacts with Russians as deep, dark, dastardly plots. They wasted energy and resources chasing specters, ghosts and conspiracies where none existed.

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A declassification order in "the next 7-8 days" would put it between Trump's return from Japan and trip to the UK. If any of the declassified material involves the UK it could be a dickslap from Trump for their involvement in the affair.

 

"Bucket 5" would be number 5 on the list of things Republican members of the House Intelligence Committee asked Trump to declassify back in September (that he held back on doing likely due to a potential obstruction charge from Mueller's probe).

https://zeldin.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/reps-zeldin-meadows-jordan-gaetz-and-colleagues-call-president-trump

 

 

1. All versions of the Carter Page FISA applications (DOJ) (DoS) (FBI) (ODNI).

2. All of the Bruce Ohr 302’s filled out by the FBI. (FBI) (ODNI)

3. All of Bruce Ohr’s emails (FBI) (DOJ) (CIA) (ODNI), and supportive documents and material provided by Bruce Ohr to the FBI. (FBI)

4. All relevant documents pertaining to the supportive material within the FISA application. (FBI) (DOJ-NSD ) (DoS) (CIA) (DNI) (NSA) (ODNI);

5. All intelligence documents that were presented to the Gang of Eight in 2016 that pertain to the FISA application used against U.S. person Carter Page; including all exculpatory intelligence documents that may not have been presented to the FISA Court. (CIA) (FBI) (DOJ) (ODNI) (DoS) (NSA)

6. All unredacted text messages and email content between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok on all devices. (FBI) (DOJ) (DOJ-NSD) (ODNI)

7. The originating CIA “EC” or two-page electronic communication from former CIA Director John Brennan to FBI Director James Comey that started Operation Crossfire Hurricane in July 2016. (CIA) (FBI) (ODNI)

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Here we go.

 

https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-memorandum-on-agency-cooperation-with-attorney-1834993466

The White House


Office of the Press Secretary
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
May 23, 2019

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE
THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
THE SECRETARY OF ENERGY
THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY
THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE
THE DIRECTOR OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY

SUBJECT: Agency Cooperation with Attorney General's Review of Intelligence Activities Relating to the 2016 Presidential Campaigns

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby direct the following:

Section 1. Agency Cooperation.
The Attorney General is currently conducting a review of intelligence activities relating to the campaigns in the 2016 Presidential election and certain related matters. The heads of elements of the intelligence community, as defined in 50 U.S.C. 3003(4), and the heads of each department or agency that includes an element of the intelligence community shall promptly provide such assistance and information as the Attorney General may request in connection with that review.

Sec. 2. Declassification and Downgrading. With respect to any matter classified under Executive Order 13526 of December 29, 2009 (Classified National Security Information), the Attorney General may, by applying the standard set forth in either section 3.1(a) or section 3.1(d) of Executive Order 13526, declassify, downgrade, or direct the declassification or downgrading of information or intelligence that relates to the Attorney General's review referred to in section 1 of this memorandum. Before exercising this authority, the Attorney General should, to the extent he deems it practicable, consult with the head of the originating intelligence community element or department. This authority is not delegable and applies notwithstanding any other authorization or limitation set forth in Executive Order 13526.

Sec. 3. General Provisions.
(a) Nothing in this memorandum shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This memorandum shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) The authority in this memorandum shall terminate upon a vacancy in the office of Attorney General, unless expressly extended by the President.

(d) This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

(e) The Attorney General is authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.

DONALD J. TRUMP

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