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15 hours ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

 

I did not call him Hitler.  I called him a racist.  51% of the American population agrees with me on this.  By referencing Hitler, you pretty much lose the argument automatically via Godwin's law.

 

Majority opinion =/= fact. That's some collectivist post modern shit right there. Your perception is not reality. Majority perception is not reality. Majority perception skewed by heavily biased mass media parroting talking points for a political agenda sure as fuck isn't reality. The fact that you fall back on this incredibly weak "proof" is pathetic and betrays a lack of substantiation for your claims.

 

It's basically the same reason why SJWs had to change the definition of racism to "privilege + power" because otherwise they would have to admit that they are being racist against white people. That handy redefining gives them the cognitive dissonance out when they call for white genocide on one hand, but call other people out for being racist merely because they commented on a member of a protected racial class, even when the comments have absolutely nothing to do with race.

 

Also, "Goodwin's law! Fuck'n got 'em!" "You automatically lose because you said Hitler, that's how the rules work. I don't have to internalize anything else you say now, because you lost." Try harder, Walt, you are smarter than that, I think...

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17 hours ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

Stop with the game.  Trump explicitly called out Rep Cummings of Baltimore as a racist in his comments.  Stop with the spinning and dodging and deflecting.  Your guy is an orange race baiting narcissist. 

 

I am in the majority in this opinion.

Walt, Cummings is a fucking parasite. He's been milking the gov-teat since 83.

Even he said Baltimore was "infested". 

He's been madly sucking at our tax dollars since ninteen eighty-fucking-three, and Baltimore, has been a fucking mess throughout his tenure.

 

The man is a fucking oxygen thief, and his passing should be celebrated by maggots everywhere.

 

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Here's the thing, most conservatives I know are ardent anti-racists and have been their whole life. Judging others as individuals is a core part of their morality since they were young, imparted to them by their parents who were adults or young people during the Civil Rights Movement. These people know the power of words as tools of oppression of minorities, that's why universally they reject the use of the N-word, and that remains culturally unacceptable in public discourse.

 

Now imagine you're one of these people who are anti-racist at your core, and circa 2001 you start getting criticized for being racist. Your first reaction is going to be, golly! I'm not racist! Let me apologize! Or maybe it's: I'm not a racist but what I say is an uncomfortable truth.

And then it keeps happening. Over and over again. Racist! Racist! Racist! Racist! Sooner or later, you become wise to the fact that every time someone accuses you of being racist, there's a political agenda behind it. You begin to realize that the race card is played more often as a smokescreen to conceal malfeasance than as corrective behavior.

Years go by, and the first black man is elected president. Well, you think, it was about time. Not my candidate, and I'm not too fond of someone from the Chicago political establishment getting the top spot, especially with that D next to his name and a vaguely socialism-lite platform, but eh McCain was a shitty candidate anyway. Of course you're not going to be quiet about him, any more than you would a white president. He gives an iPod to the Queen, you laugh at him. Fails to uphold his campaign promises, you criticize him. Lets the bureaucracy strangle business with regulation, you holler and yell. The ACA is the worst, you can see the effect it has on business and that's the thing that rubs you raw the most.

But the cries of "racism!" don't go away. In fact they intensify and diversify. Policy criticisms that have nothing to do with race get criticized as "racist!" simply because Obama is black. Antagonism towards whites hits an all time high. Race baiting gets worse not better. You start to hear about incredible stories from the border, too. Mexican Army elements, or possibly cartel groups dressed in Army clothes, cross the border, actually kill people, and nothing happens. Meanwhile border security hits an all time low. The Democrats, in at least partial power during this time, don't seem worried about this. In fact, you start seeing articles about "Purple Texas" and how by 2030 Republicans will never win another Federal election because "the future is diverse" or some shit.

Fast forward to now.

"Racism!" Yeah who cares. You're just trying to shut me down. Seen this a million times.

"No, racism!" Look if you don't shut up I'm gonna say the N-word just to piss you off.

"RACISM!"

GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM YOU JUNGLE MONKEY.


It's not because you're racist. It's because you're done. You still treat everyone the same regardless of skin color (which the lefties hate). You still hire black people, you still buy tamales from the food truck run by that nice Mexican lady. Nothing has changed, except

 

You're done playing these games. You're done being taken advantage of. You're done letting people use your good nature against you, to get one over on you. You're done self-censoring just to make them happy, in fact you hate these people who have abused your goodwill enough that you might just relish saying something that sounds kinda racist just to make them froth and toss. Fuck them. Your side lost politically for years just because cries of "racist!" would make them sit down and shut up, so was their desire to be fair and not racist. And this desire got you NOWHERE in politics, it just encouraged the Democrats to do it more.

And here we are. Cry racism all you want. Nobody's listening.

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1 hour ago, Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect said:

 

 

Tulsi Gabbard wins this by far, and the left buries her hard. 

 

The debate questions are insane.

 

Of note, CNN's viewership has dropped 48% since last year (comparable weekly numbers). Compare that to Fox, who's lost 8%. 

To sum this up..

 

https://youtu.be/g094B573iWI

 

That, is how most people saw the Democratic "debates".

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5 hours ago, Donward said:

Sad!

 

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/08/01/break-in-reported-at-rep-elijah-cummings-house/

 

Clearly this burglary happened because Trump is racist and not because Baltimore is a rat infested crime hole.

1157037079273979904EDIT - the forum ate the embed, here's the URL

https://twitter.com/stevesingiser/status/1157037079273979904
 

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Folks. This is being reported today, but the police statement says the incident actually occurred overnight Friday/early Saturday morning. Before Trump went full asshole on Rep. Cummings on Twitter. They’re not related.

 

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8 hours ago, Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect said:

Hold on. 

 

Image result for trump baltimore tweet rats

 

Why is anyone inferring race from this tweet?

 

Wouldn't that be considered racist?

 

Come on Walt, you're better than this. Don't take the bait the leftist progs are tossing your way.

 

They can Infer race from everything.

Exhibit A: (The comments) Source

Spoiler

 

 

The "progressive public" is watching!

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13 hours ago, Sturgeon said:

Here's the thing, most conservatives I know are ardent anti-racists and have been their whole life. Judging others as individuals is a core part of their morality since they were young, imparted to them by their parents who were adults or young people during the Civil Rights Movement. These people know the power of words as tools of oppression of minorities, that's why universally they reject the use of the N-word, and that remains culturally unacceptable in public discourse.

 

Now imagine you're one of these people who are anti-racist at your core, and circa 2001 you start getting criticized for being racist. Your first reaction is going to be, golly! I'm not racist! Let me apologize! Or maybe it's: I'm not a racist but what I say is an uncomfortable truth.

And then it keeps happening. Over and over again. Racist! Racist! Racist! Racist! Sooner or later, you become wise to the fact that every time someone accuses you of being racist, there's a political agenda behind it. You begin to realize that the race card is played more often as a smokescreen to conceal malfeasance than as corrective behavior.

Years go by, and the first black man is elected president. Well, you think, it was about time. Not my candidate, and I'm not too fond of someone from the Chicago political establishment getting the top spot, especially with that D next to his name and a vaguely socialism-lite platform, but eh McCain was a shitty candidate anyway. Of course you're not going to be quiet about him, any more than you would a white president. He gives an iPod to the Queen, you laugh at him. Fails to uphold his campaign promises, you criticize him. Lets the bureaucracy strangle business with regulation, you holler and yell. The ACA is the worst, you can see the effect it has on business and that's the thing that rubs you raw the most.

But the cries of "racism!" don't go away. In fact they intensify and diversify. Policy criticisms that have nothing to do with race get criticized as "racist!" simply because Obama is black. Antagonism towards whites hits an all time high. Race baiting gets worse not better. You start to hear about incredible stories from the border, too. Mexican Army elements, or possibly cartel groups dressed in Army clothes, cross the border, actually kill people, and nothing happens. Meanwhile border security hits an all time low. The Democrats, in at least partial power during this time, don't seem worried about this. In fact, you start seeing articles about "Purple Texas" and how by 2030 Republicans will never win another Federal election because "the future is diverse" or some shit.

Fast forward to now.

"Racism!" Yeah who cares. You're just trying to shut me down. Seen this a million times.

"No, racism!" Look if you don't shut up I'm gonna say the N-word just to piss you off.

"RACISM!"

GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM YOU JUNGLE MONKEY.


It's not because you're racist. It's because you're done. You still treat everyone the same regardless of skin color (which the lefties hate). You still hire black people, you still buy tamales from the food truck run by that nice Mexican lady. Nothing has changed, except

 

You're done playing these games. You're done being taken advantage of. You're done letting people use your good nature against you, to get one over on you. You're done self-censoring just to make them happy, in fact you hate these people who have abused your goodwill enough that you might just relish saying something that sounds kinda racist just to make them froth and toss. Fuck them. Your side lost politically for years just because cries of "racist!" would make them sit down and shut up, so was their desire to be fair and not racist. And this desire got you NOWHERE in politics, it just encouraged the Democrats to do it more.

And here we are. Cry racism all you want. Nobody's listening.

 

So wait. Are you admitting that Trump's statements are racist, but it's ok because it's a way for conservatives to piss off liberals?  

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1 hour ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

 

So wait. Are you admitting that Trump's statements are racist, but it's ok because it's a way for conservatives to piss off liberals?  

 

Time for a thought exercise. This is a hypothetical situation. There is some Canadian celebrity that threatened to leave the country if Trump became president. However, after the election they did not leave like the said they would, but instead have stayed and loudly complained about how shit the country is. So, Trump makes a comment about this person saying that "If it's so bad here, why don't you just go back to where to came from. You are free to leave at any time, nobody is forcing you to stay here."

 

It's that racist?

 

What if the parties were reversed. What if it was Obama telling Steven Crowder to go back to Canada?

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2 hours ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

 

So wait. Are you admitting that Trump's statements are racist, but it's ok because it's a way for conservatives to piss off liberals?  

 

The more you falsely accuse people of racism the less people will care about being accused of racism.

 

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I was gonna say something because i heard this had turned into an entertaining dumpster fire, but the blood curdling hysterical histrionics and attempts to pin one's own darkest thoughts on others regardless of how many times they explain calmly you're full of shit isn't funny at all to me.

 

P.s. walt, the REAL majority in this country are very sick of this bullshit, have stopped responding to polls or even expecting anyone to poll them because they hold the "wrong opinions", and are feeling extremely pissed off at people like you and the general utter disenfranchisement this entire pathetic fucking shit show has created.

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4 hours ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

 

So wait. Are you admitting that Trump's statements are racist, but it's ok because it's a way for conservatives to piss off liberals?  

 

Oh boy, you got me there! You'll get your blue checkmark any day now, I bet!

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You don't have to say "REAL majority," you could just say "silent majority" which is the same concept and has been around since Tricky Dick used it to tamp down on anti-Vietnam and Civil Rights protests and get those sweet sweet George Wallace voters in '72. 

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58 minutes ago, Sturgeon said:

Super racist mega evil white nationalist literally voldemort hitler Trump got (black rapper) A$AP Rocky released from prison in Sweden.

 

But I'm sure it'll bounce right off Walt.

 

You see, Trump is so racist that he will do things to benefit minorities to maintain the appearance of not being a racist in order to stay in power longer to enact more racism. Isn't it obvious. The buffoon is so stupid that he's playing 4d time cube chess to dupe everyone into thinking he's smart and not racist. It's a good thing we have Walt here to see through the facade and call Trump's racism out, since we are too partisan to see it for ourselves.

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 No it actually means Trump is racist because since he’s in a position of power to get a black man to come back to the state the obvious that means he’s just trying to get them back to his plantation /sarc

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Let’s not turn this into the “Bash Walt” thread. 

 

I’m sure many of us have been put through the ringer with the “you’re racist” crap, for years, just because we’re “not in the correct party” or “don’t have the same views” as others. THAT is far more prejudiced, biased, and narrow minded than anything I have seen IRL from all the ‘gun touting, Jesus worshipping, truck driving, boot wearing, horse riding, flag waving’ southerners I have lived with. The only racism I ever knew were stories of the klan, who I have never seen and always assumed were almost extinct, with a bunch of meth cookers all that remained of their group. Everyone I knew judged others by what they did, not by their accent, their choice of clothes, their choice of partner, their skin color, where they were born, et cetera, et cetera. 

 

I don’t know what right wing assholes you’ve been exposed to @Walter_Sobchak, but from my experience, they are typically looked down upon by the right wing I know. It is ignorant and prejudice to generalize a large group of people based on the actions of a few, outspoken individuals. 

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