Donward Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Not in my crossover fic they're not! *Grips comm device* STURGEONNNN!!!! *Echoes* Geonnn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 As an aside, how much better would the world be if all the SS-worshipping "edgy" teen types switched from being Wehraboo Nazi apologists to Imperial sympathizers? Seriously, want to get your kicks admiring an evil empire, why not go for one that's fictional and also way, way more awesome? Because the empire are commies and Rebellion are libertarians Edgy teens may like black, but they like their Ron_Paul bumberstickers alot more Besides the last thing i need is to be in the same camp as someone with a My Little Pony star wars avatar Then i might have to start liking the Zhan Consumption or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priory_of_Sion Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm a Trade Federation Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeantMatt Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Because the empire are commies and Rebellion are libertarians Edgy teens may like black, but they like their Ron_Paul bumberstickers alot more Nah, the rebellion are clearly a coalition of religious fanatics and monarchists. Tied 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Nah, the rebellion are clearly a coalition of religious fanatics and monarchists. either way, good luck getting the /pol/ crowd waving Imperial flags (regardless of their suspiciously familiar color scheme) when the Empire had a Black Grand Admiral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeantMatt Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 either way, good luck getting the /pol/ crowd waving Imperial flags (regardless of their suspiciously familiar color scheme) when the Empire had a Black Grand Admiral Even worse, they had a blue one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Oh yeah. The Empire is SOOOO hardcore and evil. Which is why they spend literally the entirety of three movies with shitty Riles of Engagement trying to capture prisoners. How many times do you see the Empire capturing Han, Chewie and the Princess only to have them get killed by the old "Look at that!!!" Trick? I mean, holy fuck, the Empire in Return of The Jedi even let the extras in the Rebel Commando team live when they captured them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 i was going to bring up Thrawn when we starting talking Starship captains, but judging from the amount of furry and mlp porn you average warthunder forum poster has on his divaiantart account its not like they have problems with color variations of white males Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeantMatt Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Hell, the Empire would have crushed the Yuuzhan Vong invasion immediately where the New Republic was too weak and indecisive to do so and let it grow beyond manageable levels, so the blood of 365 trillion dead sapients from that war is on Luke Skywalker's hands. Not that that was a good story arc. You can't expect me to take people flying coral spaceships, wearing space crabs for armor, and wielding snakes as weapons as a credible threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Yep, 14 books to give one of the most popular movie villains the moral high-ground George Lucas is the greatest poet of our time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeantMatt Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Yep, 14 books to give one of the most popular movie villains the moral high-ground George Lucas is the greatest poet of our time If I were George Lucas and somebody came to me with that story proposal, I'd feed them to the Sarlacc in my backyard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Not until you saw the royalties from all those novels, action figures, and comics im surprised they havent been incorporated into any games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobotMinisterofTrueKorea Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Late 80s early 90s liberal San Fran politics man. Like literally. TNG is the Berkeley City Council in space *Shudder* As a Bay Area resident, I cannot tell you how horrifying that sounds. Jeeps_Guns_Tanks and Sturgeon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted December 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 A level of fan-wankery so high it can see the curvature of the earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted December 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Im assuming your citing the scene in Episode 3, where two ships had to brodisde at a couple of kilometers so it could be boarded by Jedi to rescure Supereme Challancer of the republic so lets just assume that every fight is like this ship mounted turbolasers arent the only weapons in star wars, there are also fighters, an Imperial star destroyer can deploy a few wings of Twin Ion engine fighters and bombers, most importantly bombers which can hurel proton torpeados and missiles at ships from range Dont forget long ranged missiles, i dont think the Enterprise has any CWIS available to fend off waves of Diamond-boron missiles obligatory: http://www.scifights.net/SciFights.net/Federation_vs_Empire.html http://www.scifights.net/SciFights.net/Star_Wars.html I'm ignoring the EU entirely. So no, no diamond-boron missiles, no gravity well ships, no CIWS and no long-ranged combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted December 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Transporters get interfered with and blocked when someone blinks at them funny, it's an unwarranted assumption that they'd work fine through the exotic shielding and armor plate of an ISD. Not to mention that the sheer strategic mobility advantage the Empire has, with hyperdrives that can cross the entire galaxy in days, means the Empire will always dictate the terms of engagement. Since ships in both universes move at essentially the speed of plot, I didn't spend too much time considering tactical mobility. If there are some solid numbers to back up our little imaginary-friend fight then I will happily concede them before finding another way for one group of fictional technologies to beat another. Well, that or start arguing for WH40K or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Since ships in both universes move at essentially the speed of plot, I didn't spend too much time considering tactical mobility. If there are some solid numbers to back up our little imaginary-friend fight then I will happily concede them before finding another way for one group of fictional technologies to beat another. Well, that or start arguing for WH40K or something. I have been informed that starting that discussion will lead to purging with fire. It is best avoided. Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Neither EU universes in Star Trek or Star Wars count since both universes consist of shitty books written by hack authors. Only material derived from movies or television series - no matter how short lived - and holiday specials will be accepted. Fuck it. Do we have a Star Wars vs Star Trek Nerd Off post yet? If not then... Make It So! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted December 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I have been informed that starting that discussion will lead to purging with fire. It is best avoided. Some men just want to see the known universe burn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I should read some of Baxter's Xeelee books, solely for the purpose of being able to make smug comments in threads like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I'm ignoring the EU entirely. So no, no diamond-boron missiles, no gravity well ships, no CIWS and no long-ranged combat. Both links i provided do not take into account EU of either universe, and the Empire still runs circles around the federation SergeantMatt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I have been informed that starting that discussion will lead to purging with fire. It is best avoided. Mainly because Warhammer's fanbase is nearly entirely autistic But the worse debates are Galactic empire (SW) versus Forerunners (Halo) some serious passion goes into those Neither EU universes in Star Trek or Star Wars count since both universes consist of shitty books written by hack authors. Only material derived from movies or television series - no matter how short lived - and holiday specials will be accepted. Fuck it. Do we have a Star Wars vs Star Trek Nerd Off post yet? If not then... Make It So! If anything the orginal movies provided for the most wankery Why? Because no one working on episode 4 considered that the explosion of alderan displacing the planetentary debris by several orbits mathmatically means that the death star is more powerful than a dark matter reactor the size of the death star Or because in episode 5, vaporizing an asteroid takes alot more power than simply blowing it into little bits, and since the effect was eaiser to do, Star Destroyers now put out gigatons of plasma downrange like an mig-27 puts out 30mm rounds SergeantMatt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Dude it's a movie about space wizards that can move shit regardless of size with their space magic. If you're going to hate on soft scifi just because it's soft scifi, then it's probably not the genre for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Dude it's a movie about space wizards that can move shit regardless of size with their space magic. If you're going to hate on soft scifi just because it's soft scifi, then it's probably not the genre for you. Which comment are you addressing I dont hate warhammer because its an edgy version of starship troopers designed to sell board games I hate it because its fan-base is positively painful to listen too But since its as popular as it is, there are some good apples in the shittree Unlike those animea avatar fucktards who try to assert 3 halo books written by hacks to prove their favorite god-race is better than the empire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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