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As an aside, how much better would the world be if all the SS-worshipping "edgy" teen types switched from being Wehraboo Nazi apologists to Imperial sympathizers?

Seriously, want to get your kicks admiring an evil empire, why not go for one that's fictional and also way, way more awesome?

 

Because the empire are commies and Rebellion are libertarians 

 

Edgy teens may like black, but they like their Ron_Paul bumberstickers alot more

 

Besides the last thing i need is to be in the same camp as someone with a My Little Pony star wars avatar

 

Then i might have to start liking the Zhan Consumption or something 

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Because the empire are commies and Rebellion are libertarians 

 

Edgy teens may like black, but they like their Ron_Paul bumberstickers alot more

Nah, the rebellion are clearly a coalition of religious fanatics and monarchists.

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Nah, the rebellion are clearly a coalition of religious fanatics and monarchists.

 

either way, good luck getting the /pol/ crowd waving Imperial flags (regardless of their suspiciously familiar color scheme) when the Empire had a Black Grand Admiral 

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Oh yeah. The Empire is SOOOO hardcore and evil. Which is why they spend literally the entirety of three movies with shitty Riles of Engagement trying to capture prisoners. How many times do you see the Empire capturing Han, Chewie and the Princess only to have them get killed by the old "Look at that!!!" Trick?

I mean, holy fuck, the Empire in Return of The Jedi even let the extras in the Rebel Commando team live when they captured them.

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i was going to bring up Thrawn when we starting talking Starship captains, but judging from the amount of furry and mlp porn you average warthunder forum poster has on his divaiantart account its not like they have problems with color variations of white males 

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Hell, the Empire would have crushed the Yuuzhan Vong invasion immediately where the New Republic was too weak and indecisive to do so and let it grow beyond manageable levels, so the blood of 365 trillion dead sapients from that war is on Luke Skywalker's hands.

 

Not that that was a good story arc. You can't expect me to take people flying coral spaceships, wearing space crabs for armor, and wielding snakes as weapons as a credible threat.

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Yep, 14 books to give one of the most popular movie villains the moral high-ground

 

 

George Lucas is the greatest poet of our time

If I were George Lucas and somebody came to me with that story proposal, I'd feed them to the Sarlacc in my backyard.

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Im assuming your citing the scene in Episode 3, where two ships had to brodisde at a couple of kilometers so it could be boarded by Jedi to rescure Supereme Challancer of the republic

 

so lets just assume that every fight is like this

 

ship mounted turbolasers arent the only weapons in star wars, there are also 

 

fighters, an Imperial star destroyer can deploy a few wings of Twin Ion engine fighters and bombers, most importantly bombers which can hurel proton torpeados and missiles at ships from range

 

Dont forget long ranged missiles, i dont think the Enterprise has any CWIS available to fend off waves of Diamond-boron missiles

 

 

obligatory: 

 

 

 

http://www.scifights.net/SciFights.net/Federation_vs_Empire.html

 

 

http://www.scifights.net/SciFights.net/Star_Wars.html

I'm ignoring the EU entirely. So no, no diamond-boron missiles, no gravity well ships, no CIWS and no long-ranged combat.

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Transporters get interfered with and blocked when someone blinks at them funny, it's an unwarranted assumption that they'd work fine through the exotic shielding and armor plate of an ISD. Not to mention that the sheer strategic mobility advantage the Empire has, with hyperdrives that can cross the entire galaxy in days, means the Empire will always dictate the terms of engagement.

Since ships in both universes move at essentially the speed of plot, I didn't spend too much time considering tactical mobility.

 

If there are some solid numbers to back up our little imaginary-friend fight then I will happily concede them before finding another way for one group of fictional technologies to beat another.

 

Well, that or start arguing for WH40K or something.

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Since ships in both universes move at essentially the speed of plot, I didn't spend too much time considering tactical mobility.

 

If there are some solid numbers to back up our little imaginary-friend fight then I will happily concede them before finding another way for one group of fictional technologies to beat another.

 

Well, that or start arguing for WH40K or something.

I have been informed that starting that discussion will lead to purging with fire.  It is best avoided.

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Neither EU universes in Star Trek or Star Wars count since both universes consist of shitty books written by hack authors.

Only material derived from movies or television series - no matter how short lived - and holiday specials will be accepted.

Fuck it. Do we have a Star Wars vs Star Trek Nerd Off post yet?

If not then... Make It So!

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I'm ignoring the EU entirely. So no, no diamond-boron missiles, no gravity well ships, no CIWS and no long-ranged combat.

 

Both links i provided do not take into account EU of either universe, and the Empire still runs circles around the federation 

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I have been informed that starting that discussion will lead to purging with fire.  It is best avoided.

 

 Mainly because Warhammer's fanbase is nearly entirely autistic

 

 

But the worse debates are Galactic empire (SW) versus Forerunners (Halo)

 

some serious passion goes into those

 

Neither EU universes in Star Trek or Star Wars count since both universes consist of shitty books written by hack authors.

Only material derived from movies or television series - no matter how short lived - and holiday specials will be accepted.

Fuck it. Do we have a Star Wars vs Star Trek Nerd Off post yet?

If not then... Make It So!

 

If anything the orginal movies provided for the most wankery

 

Why? Because no one working on episode 4 considered that the explosion of alderan displacing the planetentary debris by several orbits mathmatically means that the death star is more powerful than a dark matter reactor the size of the death star

 

Or because in episode 5, vaporizing an asteroid takes alot more power than simply blowing it into little bits, and since the effect was eaiser to do, Star Destroyers now put out gigatons of plasma downrange like an mig-27 puts out 30mm rounds 

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Dude it's a movie about space wizards that can move shit regardless of size with their space magic. If you're going to hate on soft scifi just because it's soft scifi, then it's probably not the genre for you.

 

Which comment are you addressing  :huh:

 

I dont hate warhammer because its an edgy version of starship troopers designed to sell board games

 

I hate it because its fan-base is positively painful to listen too

 

But since its as popular as it is, there are some good apples in the shittree

 

 

Unlike those animea avatar fucktards who try to assert 3 halo books written by hacks to prove their favorite god-race is better than the empire

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