EnsignExpendable Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 @Jeeps_Guns_Tanks you're probably going to like this topic, it has a ton of extremely specific Sherman minutia http://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/oocihm.lac_reel_c5774/3487?r=0&s=4 Jeeps_Guns_Tanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted September 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted September 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Some new cleaned up shots from the Ord 9 Catalog. 4 Sgt.Squarehead, Bronezhilet and Meplat 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronezhilet Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 @Jeeps_Guns_Tanks any tips on how I should clean something like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted September 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 I think what I would do, using anything with layers, is make a 8 by 8 grid of highlight boxes, Like this Then use that to paint white over the empty cells. If you want to be super slick you could darken in the black grid so it was perfect, then use the whole thing like a stamp to fix the empty sections. For the bits with the important lines, you just have to zoom in and do it by hand with like a 3 pixel brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronezhilet Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 So basically blood, sweat, tears and a lot of screaming since I have around 20 of those pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted September 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 yeah, that's the only reason I'm throwing my logo on them now, since I put real time into cleaning those images up, and they can't be found that clean anywhere else. On that note, I'm going to bed, I've got no clue how I managed stay awake until 3 am... 333 fucking hell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Haha fuck, at that point you might as well remake the graph from scratch @Bronezhilet. @Jeeps_Guns_Tanks do you have one of those nice graphics of a Continental R975? I want to drop it into my Warspot article so you get mad clicks in my bibliography. That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meplat Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 On 9/4/2017 at 3:53 AM, Jeeps_Guns_Tanks said: Some new cleaned up shots from the Ord 9 Catalog. Much of this, as a "machinist" (in a former trade), is pure filth. A Tijuana donkey show of bevel cut gears, engineering and finish. Saving to my "porn" file. Want to know why the boxheads lost? because we were stuffing a absurdly reliable, dual carbed DOHC V8 in our tanks, and making more in a DAY than they made in a year. Our WORST tank engine was better than their best. (Hell,than just about anybody's best). Now expand that to other fields. Same shit applies. Our stuff was better,and we made more of it. Jeeps_Guns_Tanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hey @Jeeps_Guns_Tanks, I'm seeing the M4A4 with a 105 mm gun called Sherman Vb in these documents. If the Firefly was a Sherman Vc, then what was the Sherman Va? 75 or 76 mm gun? Was there a Sherman Vd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogDodger Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 The -A suffix was used by the British to designate 76 mm gun tanks. While we're on the subject, HVSS was denoted by a Y. So an M4A3(76)W HVSS would be a Sherman IVAY. What do they say about the Sherman VB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted September 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Was the prototype for the 105 tanks a M4A4? I remember something like that at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogDodger Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Absolutely correct, Jeeps: two 105 mm howitzer M4A4E1s were built in late 1942, which led to modifications resulting in the 105 mm M4E5 in mid-1943, changes to which yielded the M4(105) in early 1944. That_Baka and Jeeps_Guns_Tanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, DogDodger said: The -A suffix was used by the British to designate 76 mm gun tanks. While we're on the subject, HVSS was denoted by a Y. So an M4A3(76)W HVSS would be a Sherman IVAY. What do they say about the Sherman VB? They sent two to the Canadians. The Canadians didn't like it and used them as tractors, since they weren't ordering any more 105 mm ammunition. DogDodger and That_Baka 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter_Sobchak Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I did not realize that former Sherman tank Commander Albin F. Irzyk is still alive. Apparently, he is 100 years old and has a new book out. That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted September 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Awesome!! I'm buying it!! I wish I had his email so I could link him to the site That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 It turns out that one of the criticisms that the Sherman faced from the British was poor speed in reverse. They wanted a speed of at least 10 mph. And here we make jokes about French tanks having 5 reverse gears. That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted September 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 The US army agreed and one of the things in the devopment stream was a add on modification to the tranny, that allowed for a much higher speed in reverse. The war ending killed the program. That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogDodger Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 19 hours ago, EnsignExpendable said: They sent two to the Canadians. The Canadians didn't like it and used them as tractors, since they weren't ordering any more 105 mm ammunition. These would have to be the M4A4E1 prototypes, I would presume? Canada really is so polite. After WW2 started the USA was all, "Hey Canada, little buddy, we have some World War I-era rhomboid tanks and FT knockoffs, some of which have been in storage for almost a decade. Here you go!" And then later with the Sherman VBs, "Hey Canada, little buddy, we have a couple prototype tanks demonstrating a valid concept but unacceptable execution. Here you go!" And Canada's just, "Thanks US, eh?" That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Yeah, these were M4A4s. The US later gave Canada a bunch of M4A2E8s to replace their Ram fleet, so it wasn't all junk. That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meplat Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 3 hours ago, DogDodger said: These would have to be the M4A4E1 prototypes, I would presume? Canada really is so polite. After WW2 started the USA was all, "Hey Canada, little buddy, we have some World War I-era rhomboid tanks and FT knockoffs, some of which have been in storage for almost a decade. Here you go!" And then later with the Sherman VBs, "Hey Canada, little buddy, we have a couple prototype tanks demonstrating a valid concept but unacceptable execution. Here you go!" And Canada's just, "Thanks US, eh?" meanwhile, Canada is supplying England with Mossies, Lancs, BREN's (MkII) No4 Lee Enfields, allkinds of web gear,and allsorts of other ancilliary material. Really, the thought of a "what if" RAM variant using a GAA/GAF and mounting a 17 pounder is something I may one day attempt to accurately model, just as an amusement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter_Sobchak Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Meplat said: meanwhile, Canada is supplying England with Mossies, Lancs, BREN's (MkII) No4 Lee Enfields, allkinds of web gear,and allsorts of other ancilliary material. Really, the thought of a "what if" RAM variant using a GAA/GAF and mounting a 17 pounder is something I may one day attempt to accurately model, just as an amusement. I'm picturing a Sexton with a 17 pounder in place of the 25 pounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted September 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 So here are the latest, though a two are improved. I noticed that you find the same images in technical manuals, and the ORD 9 Catalog, but the labeling is super basic in the Ord 9 catalog. I'm trying to make improved captions, using the entries from the technical manual, on the closest images from the Ord 9, since it's much better quality. I've only done two so far. The new normal ones. I have been dabbling in more and more an cleaning up obvious bad spots in the images now too. I'm kind of torn on how much time they take. There is really nothing out there right now even close in quality for GAA drawings, online at least, but they are pretty time consuming if the original isn't great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted September 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 On 9/8/2017 at 7:33 AM, Walter_Sobchak said: I did not realize that former Sherman tank Commander Albin F. Irzyk is still alive. Apparently, he is 100 years old and has a new book out. Wow, so I looked up Irzyk on Amazon, he has one book, called 'He rode up front for Patton', that is out of print and goes for big bucks, 300 to 700! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 I still giggle every time I see the word "assy". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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