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26 minutes ago, EnsignExpendable said:

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Restored M4A2(76)W Sherman recovered from SS Thomas Donaldson. Since the tracks and suspension were ruined, they were replaced with parts taken from an Easy Eight converted into a tractor. The transmission is also from the tractor. The engine was taken from an MTLB, but the original engine has also been restored.

 

 

Awesome. I wonder what the inside looks like. 

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For those that don't mind reading on the kindle, this book is 99 cents.

 

Tank Commander : From the Fall of France to the Defeat of Germany - The Memoirs of Bill Close

 

https://smile.amazon.com/Tank-Commander-France-Germany-Memoirs-ebook/dp/B00GS8A3UA/ref=sr_1_3?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1498696539&sr=1-3&keywords=tanks

 

 

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On 6/24/2017 at 10:26 PM, Walter_Sobchak said:

Jeeps, have you ever seen a Sherman road wheels with these groves before?

 

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Probably that maker's try at reducing "chunking" caused by overheating/overloading.

 

 

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Sherman Firefly Vc T212680 'Belvedere' of "B" Squadron, Staffordshire Yeomanry, 27th Armoured Brigade, along with other armour and infantry prior to the commencement of 'Operation Goodwood' as part of the ongoing battle for Caen in Normandy, France, on the morning of 18th July, 1944.-WWII Colorized Photos.


 

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58 minutes ago, EnsignExpendable said:

Any idea about these trials @Jeeps_Guns_Tanks? This is the second document I've seen about Americans coming over to Canada to do trials with Shermans. The other one was for cold weather trials, but I don't see why they couldn't do this one in the US.

 

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Not out of hand. I'll see if I can find something at home,  at work on phone. 

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On 8/1/2017 at 9:50 AM, EnsignExpendable said:

Any idea about these trials @Jeeps_Guns_Tanks? This is the second document I've seen about Americans coming over to Canada to do trials with Shermans. The other one was for cold weather trials, but I don't see why they couldn't do this one in the US.

 

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Maybe Camp Grayling was full? 

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I just put this together too

 

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The Chrysler Engine that could have been: The A-65 V12, if the war had gone on, there could have been some hotrod Shermans.

Chrysler Corporation had a big impact on the war, and US Tank production. They produced the first, and the model for the others, Tank Arsenal CDA.  They also came up with the A-57 multibank tank motor, that powered a significant number of Sherman tanks. They produced this fantastically complicated, but also reliable motor in a very quickly, and even though the US Army and Marine Corps thumbed their noses at it,  it was well liked by the British.

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Chrysler on their own dime came up with a water cooled, V12, tank motor, and offered it to the Army.  It took them about a year to come up with three trial motors.  These 1568 cubic motors started out at 650 horsepower at 2600 RPM and 1485 pounds of torque at 1600 RPM on the test stand.  They came in around 3840 pounds, but there was a proposed all aluminum version that have dropped nearly 1000 pounds.  Designing and producing the prototypes, cost a grand total of 358,000 bucks, that’s over 5 million in today’s dollars. During the dyno testing period, they had a few problems with the fan drives, but these were solved with improved oiling and rolling bearings, and these seemed to have solved the problems.

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They used an M4A4 as a test vehicle, and had to stretch it another 9 and 1/2 inches to fit the new motor. Installed and ready to roll the thing came in at 69,170 ponds, and a stock M4A4 came in at 69,640 pounds!  Installed, the early versions had 549 horsepower, but they upped the compression ratio and got it to 580, and it was improved even more with some carburetion changes. They made the compression change by swapping and a cam change during the in vehicle testing phase. Further testing led to the intake and carb changes.  All the while the motor was being swapped in and out, and driving tests done.

The automotive tests were very successful, and that was using the stock powertrain of the Sherman, though with so much power, they decided a gear change would help. By swapping the original 3:53:1 gears for 3:05:1 gears, they A65 was still able to beat an M4A43 in a drag race!  The engine was so promising, it’s an interesting mystery why the Army never developed it further.  Much like the GAA, there was much more performance potential in this motor, and the Army never took it any further.

I suspect what ultimately killed this motor, was the same thing that killed the GAA, the Army was looking at air cooled motors for the future, because you can save a lot of weight, if there is not liquid cooling system needed.

Special thanks goes out to Chris R, one of our readers and a source contributor, sent me a nice little history on the motor.  Thanks again Chris, sorry it took so long!!

Sources:  Sherman, by Hunnicutt, and 1943 A-65 Tank Engine History

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