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They are weapons from central Indian tribes if I understand it correctly, you can find most of them mentioned here:

 

https://archive.org/details/anillustratedha00egergoog

page 78-79

 

if the picture few pages earlier doesn't show (doesn't for me)

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If you like something less exotic you might like these:

 

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=94655&stc=1

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/3c/92/df/3c92df76fc3dc0c6a4ca14b20800aeb9.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/00/fb/b3/00fbb3c6d96979e52380c241309f2f2c.jpg 

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They are weapons from central Indian tribes if I understand it correctly, you can find most of them mentioned here:

 

https://archive.org/details/anillustratedha00egergoog

page 78-79

 

if the picture few pages earlier doesn't show (doesn't for me)

18c45bd3e3e459324460e4113fcb2ef5.jpg

 

If you like something less exotic you might like these:

 

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=94655&stc=1

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/3c/92/df/3c92df76fc3dc0c6a4ca14b20800aeb9.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/00/fb/b3/00fbb3c6d96979e52380c241309f2f2c.jpg 

 

Oh, huh. Are they ceremonial or for combat?

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I don't completely disagree with Lloyd but I'd like to remind that once again, not all halberds are uniform in shape. Sometimes the cutting blade is canted, other times it's straight, and sometimes the spike/spearhead is long and stubby - other times it has a ability to cut and is short. The halberds Lloyd show in his video are mostly from late 15th century to late 16th century so it could be just a preferred look of the time. I would also like to point out that the shape of the lower part of the cutting portion will probably be a better indicator to if you wan't to do more of a pulling-cut with the weapon. + That chop motion he does when he talks about stab vs chop is way overblown (you don't really have to load up so much with a long polearm to inflict damage).

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In means of functionality, pretty much yes - but I doubt there is any direct "lineage" between the two. Also wouldn't something like partizan fit more as a successor, considering it doesn't have a axe-like blade? PS. a bit older version of "halberd":

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There is a type of  lineage from the atgeir in the fact that old Norse texts poorly translated atgeir and atgeirsstafir to "halberd".  We really don't have any archaeological evidence of an atgeir, what we have are descriptions from sagas. People have done some experimental archaeology and pieced together what they think the weapon would have looked like.

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Of course this resembles a bardiche or even a longaxe. 

10th century examples of ax heads, which you can read more about in the blog in the "general archaeology" thread if you have any interest in those. 

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What I meant with lineage is a non stop continuation of evolution if that makes sense. As in evolution of atgeir might have gone "extinct", and later on when the need for polearms came back - some other solution was created or taken. The translation 'halberd' is a bit confusing; did they translate it to that because that's the only polearm they knew and somewhat fit the description? But yeah, whilst I won't try to guess the possible shape of that weapon, I wouldn't be surprised if it was something pretty basic like early voulges, winged-spears and suchlike.

I remember having seen that blog, it is really good!

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I really think it comes from a lack of a better word and not a direct translation. There are a half dozen other words that have been "translated" as halberd also. Like bryntröll, höggspjót, sviða, brynklungr, heftisax, fleinn etc..

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Lindy seems awful pleased about these Orwellian developments:

He's a brit - they're used to living in a 1984 LARP now.

 

Also, he missed out on the promising field of terrifyingly good facial recognition.

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