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Models and pictures of Soviet MBT designs from 80s. Object 477A, Object 490 Buntar and Object 299.


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7 hours ago, Andrei_bt said:

Biala? Maybe Belka (squirrel) or "white" as you say?

Well, spoken ukrainian is quite simmilar to polish so there is posiblle some mistake of course.

What I'm sure - two "independent" sources (one from Russia and one from Ukraina) cofirmed that Ob.477A2 was not the end :)

So there should be something more, or rather newest. BTW - cooperation break up between Russia and Ukraina in term IV gen tank was in circa 2001 so 16 yers ago...

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Yes, Ok, but is this in any way conencted whit Molot? Im still crusious how to hell was conencted  hull autoloader (in both driver sides) whit turret basket autoloader (this beteen Tk and gunner?

 

Couse all is OK until momnt when we had tried to put autoloaders whit dimension 152mm ammo and space for crew inside tank.

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Object 640 “Black Eagle” and it’s successors

The “Object 640” also known as a “Black Eagle” was created in 1990-s by the designers of Omsk KBTM (transport machine building bureau). The tank belongs to a new generation and realizes a lot of innovative constructional decisions and arrangement which differs it from all classical Russian and western tanks. The tank uses the new design turret with low frontal profile and detachable transport and loading module. The armor protection of front hull and turret is modular design. The crew is stationed in the hull below the turret ring and completely separated from ammunition and fuel.

We all know, that it was created in 90s without state financing and led to creation of 2 testing vehicles, than the idea of a whole new tank was abandoned as very complex and budget-unfriendly. But this development continued up to end of 2000-s. Several projects were realized like a T-55M6 upgrade with “black Eagle” components (turret bustle autoloader, reactive armor and so on). But state financed “Burlak” project is more interesting project. The only tank with 2 separately functioning autoloader. T-90 tank was upgraded under this project and experimental tank on T-90 chassis was created.

 

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Well, maybe it’s bad translation but give an idea about this design  - http://btvt.info/7english/640a/640.htm

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Weird.

The 125mm Vacuum type KEPs seem to weigh more than the 152mm Grifel, while the Svinets weigh nearly twice less than even previous KEPs such as Vant and Mango, and less than twice the weight of Vacuum. Why is that?

 

I also understand that each KEP past the 2000 period has 2 variants coming simultaneously, I presume one DU and one WC, with the latter being for export. Other than price, is there any reason they'd keep DU? 

 

Last but not least, why would there be 3 different figures for the Grifel-series KEPs? Even 140mm cannons used in past NATO and western projects have been scratching that 2,000m/s border, as heavier and thicker rods are less prone to shattering and efficiency loss beyond certain velocities compared to 120mm and 125mm.

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