Models and pictures of Soviet MBT designs from 80s. Object 477A, Object 490 Buntar and Object 299.

[LoooSeR]

Dat autoloader

[barbaria]

1 hour ago, LoooSeR said:

Dat autoloader

 

So the warheads are in the crew compartment with the charges in the hull?

 

Also interesting to see that the special amour begins just in front of the crew seats on either side of the hull.

[LoooSeR]

1 hour ago, barbaria said:

 

So the warheads are in the crew compartment with the charges in the hull?

 

Also interesting to see that the special amour begins just in front of the crew seats on either side of the hull.

No, look closer. AFAIK each slot in turret 8 round loader contains ready ti use warhead and propellant charge.

[LoooSeR]

Model or mock up?

[LoooSeR]

stolen (again) 

[LoooSeR]

Details of Boxer/Molot model turret

[LoooSeR]

http://btvt.narod.ru/3/molot_vnii.htm

Photo of 3rd test unit of Molot

 

Autoloader place:

[LoooSeR]

[Karamazov]

On 6/13/2018 at 11:33 PM, LoooSeR said:

Someone said that at Kharkov they saw the 477 Nota. They say it was under the tarpaulin. Talked about the arrival of something new. This is a rumor, i think, but maybe it's true.

[LoooSeR]

Forgot to add this - claimed to be a variant of heavy IFV on Object 299 chassis

http://btvt.narod.ru/3/object299.htm

 

Engine and transmission

[skylancer-3441]

It appears to be much more spacious than another 299-based heavy IFV, one which was mentioned earlier in this thread:

On 8/21/2015 at 2:56 PM, vick7 said:

Is the T-15 a newer HIFV of this Object 299 one?  A what is that gun it has 57mm like what the BMP-3M is getting soon?

And as im on this il add this for the Object 292 https://youtu.be/MGn0qSE95D0

On 4/20/2017 at 4:36 PM, LoooSeR said:



I see an SPG on Object 299 chassis for a first time. Also Gurkhan claims that Heavy IFV at some point wa supposed to be armed with 76 mm autocannon.

which apparently (well, assuming that it had same armor thickness as 299-based tank itself, and assuming that it had constant roof thickness) was almost as low on the inside as BMP-2

UPD:
comparison with sillouette of early design of Armata-based Heavy APC

Apparently 299-based HIFV is some 14 inches lower on the inside

 

 

[LoooSeR]

Mock up of Object 490.

[skylancer-3441]

Andrei_BT made post in his blog, where he also posted another picture of this mockup:

...along with some words about this vehicle been example of cool and too-complicated-for-brasshats-to-understand way of designing tanks - they decided to use fresh new layout to keep tank lightweight, instead of using a traditional one (with more than 2 man inside) and simply adding more armor - which eventually leads to Maus-alike weight.

 

It reminds me of another, 15-20 years earlier, soviet attempt to make the same "great leap forward" using the same design of 2-man-crew-in-turret - Chelyabinsk's object 775.

[skylancer-3441]

/...erm. Don't remember pressing "submit reply" button and posting the same thing twice /
/have to turn it now into something usefull, I guess.../
Andrei_BT posted same 2 photos of 490 full-scale mockup (in slightly bigger resolution than those already posted there) at his FB https://www.facebook.com/andrei.btvt/posts/208734635129637

[LoooSeR]

One more pic of Object 490 mock up

[LoooSeR]

http://btvt.info/7english/490_eng.htm

Andrey posted this in Soviet tank thread, reposting this here, as it is relevant to this topic.

 

Object 490 "Poplar"

 

Rearming and refueling vehicle

 

Object 477 model

[Andrei_bt]

490A  Rebel - competitor of 490 Poplar

 

http://btvt.info/2futureprojects/490a.htm

 

[Andrei_bt]

[Andrei_bt]

 

 

About the last Soviet tank design, some sort of "what if ...." - http://btvt.info/2futureprojects/490_21vek.htm

[heretic88]

Interesting design.  But I dont really understand that 4 track arrangement. Sure, if the tank loses one track, it remains able to move. But on the other hand, it makes the vehicle needlessly complicated. 2 engines, geared together driving 2 tracks would be better I think for this concept.

[Andrei_bt]

15 hours ago, heretic88 said:

Interesting design.  But I dont really understand that 4 track arrangement. Sure, if the tank loses one track, it remains able to move. But on the other hand, it makes the vehicle needlessly complicated. 2 engines, geared together driving 2 tracks would be better I think for this concept.

 

Hard to say - MLRS dispenses 28 AT-2 antitank mines a round.

[Serge]

Once your facing your first mine, you’re ne more pushing forward. 

You’re changing your plan or you call for sappers to breach the mine field. 

[LoooSeR]

Paralay is working on 3D model of Object 490B "Belka"

[Renegade334]

O_o...

 

Oookay. Now how do you service (or replace) either engine without being forced to prealably remove the entire gun? Is it possible for the front part of the hull (from glacis' tip to end of the first "bogie") to disconnect from the rest of the body or is this a true monolithic hull?

[LoooSeR]

44 minutes ago, Renegade334 said:

O_o...

 

Oookay. Now how do you service (or replace) either engine without being forced to prealably remove the entire gun? Is it possible for the front part of the hull (from glacis' tip to end of the first "bogie") to disconnect from the rest of the body or is this a true monolithic hull?

Engines slides down from the bottom of this thing AFAIK.