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Old-timey arms marketing videos are a great source of mirth.  They're part time capsule, part content-free advertisement.

 

I'm roughly dating this video to the early Reagan era.  Operation Nimrod is mentioned and even a bit of footage from it is shown at 1:21.  If you want to sell submachine guns, some sort of embassy crisis which ends in an SF raid.  It worked for FN too.  Curiously, the new HK G41 5.56mm rifle, which was introduced in 1981, is not mentioned.

 

The description of the diopter sight as "easy to adjust" at 1:58 is debatable, but the idea that they're as easy to use as a scope is laughable.  The comparison of the HK 91 against a bolt action rifle at 2:36 seems risible too, but remember that this was the 1980s.  Most police unit snipers would still have been using bolt action rifles.  Assuming that the police units had snipers at all.

 

The demonstration at 3:20 is rather strange; supposedly the scope mount (which rather reminds me of the Warsaw Pact SVD scope mounts, incidentally) can hold zero if removed and re-attached.  Why are they putting it on another rifle?  Are we to believe that HK rifles are produced with such uncompromising precision that all of their rifles have the same point of impact relative to their scope mounts!?  I'm guessing that either this was supposed to show the cross-compatible nature of the scope mounts on HKs (if you'd ever wondered what those little square wrinkle things in the top of the receiver were, now you know), and they didn't realize how strange this seemed.  Because in the 1980s, putting a scope on a rifle wasn't a prerequisite like it is today.

 

3:40 is where the really funny claims start.  Apparently the roller locking system of the G3 allows it to defy the conservation of momentum!  Actually, G3s, compared to other 7.62 NATO self-loaders, have a rather violent recoil impulse that is the direct result of their very high bolt carrier velocity.  When Sturgeon and I high-speed video-d an HK 21 (essentially the same weapon, but belt-fed), we clocked the bolt carrier going about twice as fast as the bolt carrier group of an AR-15.  In fact, one of the many changes that either HK or CETME made to the relatively simple STG-45 design early in the development of the G3 was the addition of a counter-wrapped spring buffer in the stock to keep the bolt carrier from battering the receiver.  Later, this was supplemented with a granulated tungsten buffer inside the bolt carrier.

 

4:15 starts the obligatory dirt test.  Note that in these videos, whenever the weapon is immersed in crud, this is invariably done with the ejection port facing down.  HK roller rifles are not particularly more resistant to debris ingress than other well-designed military rifles.  Getting enough crud inside the works will stop them, same as anything else.  In fact, HK resisted putting last-round hold opens on their weapons for just this reason (yes, it's a public forum.  However, G3Kurz worked for HK for years, so when it comes to HKs, he knows whereof he speaks).

 

The sequence starting at 6:54 is hilarious.  You've got your slow, deliberate manipulation of the weapon components (a trope sadly lost in recent years from such videos), you've got your porno music, and you've got your porno 'stache.  Yes, indeed, the HK-94 is adaptable to any situation.  Even explosive ones!

 

We are then treated to a talk about the P7 pistol, then HK's flagship model.  They... slightly simplify the history of the gas-retarded blowback system, HK did not invent that.  However, they did invent the cocking system so far as I know, and from the times I've shot it, it seems a good system.  You know, if it weren't so hideously complex:

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And finally, a historical curiosity, there was a period when HK was the importer for the Benelli super 90.

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The demonstration at 3:20 is rather strange; supposedly the scope mount (which rather reminds me of the Warsaw Pact SVD scope mounts, incidentally) can hold zero if removed and re-attached.  Why are they putting it on another rifle?  Are we to believe that HK rifles are produced with such uncompromising precision that all of their rifles have the same point of impact relative to their scope mounts!?  I'm guessing that either this was supposed to show the cross-compatible nature of the scope mounts on HKs (if you'd ever wondered what those little square wrinkle things in the top of the receiver were, now you know), and they didn't realize how strange this seemed.  Because in the 1980s, putting a scope on a rifle wasn't a prerequisite like it is today.

 

The French MAS 49/56 can swap sights and have the sights close to the money - at least at closer range (precision 400m plus then you are correct, the chance of the two weapons firing 10 ring is laughable).  For years the ability of all French rifles to carry as scope was seen as a disadvantage of other rifles.

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It's already begun...

 

 

RULE 3 GODDAMNIT, RULE 3!

 

Calicos are lovably strange little carbines.  They are roller-retarded blowback, with the bolt carrier group being a simplified version of the HK design (the fluted chamber and anti-rebound claw are omitted).  This means that calicos are about twice as complex as they need to be, while MP-5s are about three times too complicated.

 

The placement of the magazine on top of the weapon meant that, bizarrely, the rear sight was attached to the magazine.  It is remarkable that the design team could come up with the helical magazine, but not a better place to put the sights.

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This is fucking magical:

 

 

Meplat, you should fortify yourself with alcohol before watching this, otherwise I cannot be held responsible to any damage you inflict to your computer monitor or walls by throwing things at them.

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This is fucking magical:

 

 

Meplat, you should fortify yourself with alcohol before watching this, otherwise I cannot be held responsible to any damage you inflict to your computer monitor or walls by throwing things at them.

I'm Canadian, and we're generally considered to be overly trusting folks here. 

 

Yeah. NO.

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This is fucking magical:

 

 

Meplat, you should fortify yourself with alcohol before watching this, otherwise I cannot be held responsible to any damage you inflict to your computer monitor or walls by throwing things at them.

 

But I'd to see Meplat knock someone out with a thrown toolbox!

 

Can he do that while drunk?

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Promotional video for the F-16A, featuring the first generation MFD.

 

And for it's potential competitor, the F-20 Tigershark, starring Chuck Yeager.

 

Grumman promotional film for Iranian F-14s. "To her south, the Persian Gulf. These warm waters Russia has coveted since the days of the Tsar."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45XKU12y4lM

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I've heard from people who shot it that the G11 was a handful in burst mode.  In semi though, not so bad.

 

In burst mode the entire receiver and magazine recoil within the housing.  All three shots are fired before the receiver bottoms out, so the point of aim is not spoiled by recoil and the three rounds of the burst cluster around the point of aim (instead of stringing vertically like they do in conventional rifles).

 

The downside of that is that the momentum doesn't go away, it just adds up until the receiver bottoms out within the housing.  Then all the momentum from all three shots of the burst hit the shooter at once.

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The AR-10 looks like it would have hurt to fire for any extended time. Speaking of which, every video I've seen of the G11 looks like it has nasty recoil

 

Having done a full auto mag dump in an AR-10, it's roughly equivalent to being tased in sensation.

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I've heard from people who shot it that the G11 was a handful in burst mode.  In semi though, not so bad.

 

In burst mode the entire receiver and magazine recoil within the housing.  All three shots are fired before the receiver bottoms out, so the point of aim is not spoiled by recoil and the three rounds of the burst cluster around the point of aim (instead of stringing vertically like they do in conventional rifles).

 

The downside of that is that the momentum doesn't go away, it just adds up until the receiver bottoms out within the housing.  Then all the momentum from all three shots of the burst hit the shooter at once.

   Same with AN-94, recoil from 2 shots kich you just after second bullet leaves barrel. "Fck your shoulders!"-recoil rifles. They are not very comfortable, and burst modes on those 2 is not worth of trouble.

 

   Will such types of small arms be ever needed?

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   Same with AN-94, recoil from 2 shots kich you just after second bullet leaves barrel. "Fck your shoulders!"-recoil rifles. They are not very comfortable, and burst modes on those 2 is not worth of trouble.

 

   Will such types of small arms be ever needed?

 

The selling point always seems to be either for defeating body armor by striking (near) the same place multiple times and/or trying to make a shotgun as accurate as a rifle so that you can increase "kill probability" by putting more lead in the air so that the target is more likely to be hit or to take a vital hit.

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The selling point always seems to be either for defeating body armor by striking (near) the same place multiple times and/or trying to make a shotgun as accurate as a rifle so that you can increase "kill probability" by putting more lead in the air so that the target is more likely to be hit or to take a vital hit.

 

Pretty much, if anyone is taking the time to put accurate (like within one body part at 400 meters) type shots with a Ak-74, just hand him one of these

 

That way he can pop specific targets like a DMR but wont be cuckholded once the fight gets all sporty and close 

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And then the program inevitably gets canceled when somebody figures out how to make better bullets and that you can just issue ACOG/PSO low-power optics to everybody, instead of developing and fielding rifles that have fancy clockwork mechanisms and/or a goddamn rope inside them.

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