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On 10/27/2017 at 8:34 PM, EnsignExpendable said:

Andrei (who doesn't post here anymore for some reason) has the good shit http://btvt.info/1inservice/chieftain/vop_chieftain_hesh.htm

 

TL;DR (also for you Western heathens): the armour penetrating action of 120 mm HESH is more or less the same as that of 125 mm HE.

Armour penetrating action more or less the same? Is this joke?

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No. The comparison between 115/125 mm HE and 120 mm HESH however seems to be focused on tests against composite armor and/or the ability to tear apart welding seams/break internal equipment (i.e. the strength of the shock caused by the detonation). Tests of the HESH mechanism against monolithic steel armor were also conducted.

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3 hours ago, SH_MM said:

No. The comparison between 115/125 mm HE and 120 mm HESH however seems to be focused on tests against composite armor and/or the ability to tear apart welding seams/break internal equipment (i.e. the strength of the shock caused by the detonation). Tests of the HESH mechanism against monolithic steel armor were also conducted.

Yes i read the test that's why i thought it was a joke, maybe he forgot to add, for example against composite armor at the end like this:

"the armour penetrating action of 120 mm HESH is more or less the same as that of 125 mm HE against composite armor."

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On 1/21/2019 at 1:14 PM, LoooSeR said:

Some information on BMP-3 with Epokha from GurKhan.

    Epokha unmanned turret is planned to be installed on modernized BMP-3s, it is armed with low-energy 57 autocannon similar to LShO-57 (which is basically an oversized AGL) and 2 new ATGMs. When people heard name of new ATGM (Bulat) and looked at model of Epokha turret everybody thought that Bulat ATGMs were new small caliber missiles as big launchers on sides of unmanned turret were exactly same as Kornet launchers on Berezhok and other turrets for IFVs.

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   But looks like we were wrong:

   Bulat is Kornet-sized ATGM with new guidance system (possibly 3rd gen F&F, i hope). It is possible to use Kornets in those launcher, so Bulats are not going to be exclusive type of ATGMs that Epokha can use. I suspect that during initial presentation those things will be armed with Kornets instead of new Bulats.

 

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   Bulat ATGM 3D model shown during presentetion of Boomerang-BM unmanned turret, sometime before 2015 IIRC.

 

   So what are those smaller caliber missile launcher on Epokha turret roof?

   Picture from patent:

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   Those things are our good old friend "guided bullet" concept, which was sort of known for years.

Docs that were posted on otvaga:

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2496087

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2512047

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2496089

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2538881

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2527366

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2569229

 

In container/launcher:

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2568823

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2529256

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2535119

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LShO-57/AGS-57:

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The only thing I was told was “Bulat” intended for the shelling of poorly protected targets. So "Kornets" are not spend, for example, on the BMP or BTRs.

  ... did Gurkhan mixed up things? So Bulat is not a Kornet-sized new ATGM, but a small missile that we initially thought? I'm confused. So this mean that there is a new F&F (possible) ATGM in development, but it is not called Bulat, or it is going under same R&D program or something else? 

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Ground tests of the second prototype tank T-44.

 

In accordance with the order of the People’s Commissar of the Tank Industry of the USSR and Commander of the Armored troops and Mechanized troops of the Red Army No. 366/098 from 31.5.44, from June 15 to July 17, 1944, field tests of the second prototype of the T-44 tank,  produced by Plant No. 183 People commissariat of tank industry. 

The prototype of the T-44 tank presented for testing was made taking into account the observations of the ground test commission of the first prototype, conducted in February-March 1944.  The tests were carried out according to a program approved by the Deputy People's Commissar of the Tank Industry …

 

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Diagram of the results of the accuracy of the battle of the ZIS-S-53 cannon after tests with mileage and 230 shots.

The shooting distance is 1000 meters.

 

 

http://btvt.info/1inservice/t-44-1944-tests.htm

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