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Posted on Otvaga, original sources: http://oeps.ifmo.ru/uchebn/UP_TPV.pdf and https://museum.ifmo.ru/images/pages/615/Vestnik_144.pdf

 

Soviet (1987) thermal sight "Progress 2M", competitor for Agava thermal sight. 

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   Stats:

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Spectral range - 8-13 mcm

Number of elements - 500x384

Field of view - 40ox30o

Zoom - 10x and 3x

Temperature sensitivity - not less than 0.1K

 

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   Picture from Progress 2 TI.

 

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   Sight was tested on T-80U, satisfied all requirements for all-time sight (day and night) and range of detection of threats.

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In 2019, the expected delivery of an experimental batch of BMP-3 with a promising combat module "Epokha". Modernization of the 97 BMP-3 should be completed by October 2019.

In light of this here is a photoshopped BMP-3 with mock up of Epokha turret.

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Same with BMP-2:

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On Lostarmor some attempt to make a statistics on damage to T-72/T-64 was made.

 

All known T-72s that were damaged during Donbass war:

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cross - "rods"
point - HEAT
diamond - penetration of unknown origin
pentagon - ricochet and "not pierced"

by color breakdown of damage to different vehicles

 

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/886cb7ad0247a0122637d5e70d2b1b63a70dcd2cb14710ddd8632a8f0040e68b.jpg

 

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   Combat damage of all types of 64s (except Bulat). "Sample" of about 30 tanks. Again, it is difficult to claim completeness, but this is what has been found. Something just did not get into the sample, as some hits was hidden behind the rags of the remains of the sideskirts and other things, something scattered into pieces along with the tank itself.

 

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/49d7142d5c465cec5adaaa570629feb7a441857aa09482a6422b56f3e81f2e1f.jpg

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3 hours ago, heretic88 said:

And here is a model... My first thought is what an awesome upgrade, my second thought is what a shitty upgrade...Only time will tell if this will be good or not.

source:http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2019/01/3_19.html

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   Yes, models were posted in this thread several times when they appeared on public. It is strange upgrade, especially Bulat missiles.

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20 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

Yes, models were posted in this thread several times when they appeared on public. It is strange upgrade, especially Bulat missiles.

Basically, this armament would be quite good. But in my opinion, replacing the 100mm+30mm combination is still a mistake. The original armament is excellent, especially the 2A70 with very effective HE shells. 30mm may be a problem, it needs a solution for its poor AP performance, but that shouldnt be that hard to solve.

But here is another question: What is the point of the whole Kurganets-25 project then?  It doesnt have any real advantages over this modernized BMP-3, and is massively more expensive... This also applies to the comparison with BMP-3 Dragun.

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3 hours ago, heretic88 said:

Basically, this armament would be quite good. But in my opinion, replacing the 100mm+30mm combination is still a mistake. The original armament is excellent, especially the 2A70 with very effective HE shells. 30mm may be a problem, it needs a solution for its poor AP performance, but that shouldnt be that hard to solve.

But here is another question: What is the point of the whole Kurganets-25 project then?  It doesnt have any real advantages over this modernized BMP-3, and is massively more expensive... This also applies to the comparison with BMP-3 Dragun. 

 

Unless it's carrying more hull armour

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Some information on BMP-3 with Epokha from GurKhan.

    Epokha unmanned turret is planned to be installed on modernized BMP-3s, it is armed with low-energy 57 autocannon similar to LShO-57 (which is basically an oversized AGL) and 2 new ATGMs. When people heard name of new ATGM (Bulat) and looked at model of Epokha turret everybody thought that Bulat ATGMs were new small caliber missiles as big launchers on sides of unmanned turret were exactly same as Kornet launchers on Berezhok and other turrets for IFVs.

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   But looks like we were wrong:

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"Bulat is a multi-purpose missile system in the dimensions of the Kornet ATGM with a thermal imaging seeker."

   Bulat is Kornet-sized ATGM with new guidance system (possibly 3rd gen F&F, i hope). It is possible to use Kornets in those launcher, so Bulats are not going to be exclusive type of ATGMs that Epokha can use. I suspect that during initial presentation those things will be armed with Kornets instead of new Bulats.

 

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   Bulat ATGM 3D model shown during presentetion of Boomerang-BM unmanned turret, sometime before 2015 IIRC.

 

   So what are those smaller caliber missile launcher on Epokha turret roof?

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   "In addition, the "Epokha", judging by the presented model, has a battery of 8 UR "Marker" (Фломастер\Flomaster). This new rocket use kinetic effects. It has a subcaliber hard-alloy core-penetrator, instead of the usual HEAT warhead. Of course, such a rocket has a worse armor penetration, but is very compact. The block with the "Marker" GM in the stowed position is retracted into the interior of an unmanned turret and is pushed out before shooting. Aiming on the horizon is carried out by turning the entire combat compartment."

   Picture from patent:

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"It is planned that heavy armored vehicles and fortifications will be destroyed by Kornet and Bulat, light armored vehicles by Flomasters, and a 57mm automatic cannon will work on manpower and non-armored vehicles."

   Those things are our good old friend "guided bullet" concept, which was sort of known for years.

Docs that were posted on otvaga:

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2496087

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2512047

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2496089

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2538881

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2527366

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2569229

 

In container/launcher:

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2568823

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2529256

http://www.fips.ru/cdfi/fips.dll/ru?ty=29&docid=2535119

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LShO-57/AGS-57:

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On 1/18/2019 at 9:38 PM, LoooSeR said:

On Lostarmor some attempt to make a statistics on damage to T-72/T-64 was made.

 

All known T-72s that were damaged during Donbass war:

 

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/886cb7ad0247a0122637d5e70d2b1b63a70dcd2cb14710ddd8632a8f0040e68b.jpg

 

 

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/49d7142d5c465cec5adaaa570629feb7a441857aa09482a6422b56f3e81f2e1f.jpg

What is/are "rods"?

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