The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines

[heretic88]

This is pretty low from the tank museum. Sooo many BS, myths and misconceptions... Why do they keep repeating these over and over and over?  

 

[LoooSeR]

   Does it have KGB agents in a crew that keep their eye on rest of tank crew?

[ZloyKrolik]

What myths & misconceptions? 

[heretic88]

14 hours ago, ZloyKrolik said:

What myths & misconceptions? 

 

Basically, this:

West: Lets build few high quality tanks, and continuously upgrade them

Soviet: Lets build lots of low quality trash, and be satisfied with them

+ lots of errors about T-54/55, how to differentiate them, etc. 

[ZloyKrolik]

4 hours ago, heretic88 said:

 

 

Soviet: Lets build lots of low quality trash, and be satisfied with them

 

I know the Soviets had a set doctrine and built vehicles to fit that doctrine. I wouldn't say they were low quality though.

[That_Baka]

4 hours ago, heretic88 said:

 

Basically, this:

West: Lets build few high quality tanks, and continuously upgrade them

Soviet: Lets build lots of low quality trash, and be satisfied with them

+ lots of errors about T-54/55, how to differentiate them, etc. 

I hope you are refering to the misconceptions.

[heretic88]

Just now, That_Baka said:

hope you are refering to the misconceptions.

Yes of course. The T-54 was a quite advanced tank for its time. It was neither low quality or poorly equipped. It was also upgraded continously, soviets always found something to add or improve. Quite sad that the people at the tank museum didnt realize this, and just repeating old BS...

[LoooSeR]

On 8/14/2020 at 6:56 PM, LoooSeR said:

   BTR-82AT with new turret/combat module

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   BTR-82AT armored personnel carrier with a new combat module

 

   The BTR-82AT armored personnel carrier with a new combat module and a set of protective and cage armor in terms of the composition of the armament complex, protection and the ability to solve tactical and fire missions, in fact, has turned into a wheeled BMP. Thanks to the implemented measures, the combat effectiveness coefficient of the BTR-82AT increased by 1.2 times compared to the BTR-82A.

 

   A set of protective and slat armor plates mounted on the hull and turret significantly increases the anti-bullet and anti-HEAT resistance when hit by ammunition from large-caliber machine guns and anti-tank rocket grenades.

   Additional protection installed on the BTR-82AT increased the combat weight of the armored personnel carrier to 17.25 tons, which limited the vehicle's ability to overcome water obstacles by swimming. However, when the uparmor kit removed from the machine, it is again capable of performing this task.

 

   At the Army-2020 International Military-Technical Forum, the BTR-82AT is being demonstrated for the first time with the BTR-BM remotely controlled combat module (DUBM).

 

   As the main and secondary weapons in the BTR-BM DBM, a 30-mm 2A42 automatic cannon and a 7.62-mm PKTM machine gun paired with it, respectively. In addition, a 9K111-1M Konkurs-M guided missile system with two 9M113M ATGM launchers was installed on the DUBM. As an auxiliary weapon, there are 6 launchers of the 902V Tucha smoke layingsystem.

 

   Thanks to the thermal imaging channel, the detection range of BMP-BTR-type targets at night increased from 1,200 m to 3,000 m. The presence of an automatic target tracking system significantly increases the likelihood of hitting moving targets on the move, regardless of the operator's training level. The combat module is controlled from the automated workstation of the gunner-operator, installed in the chassis of the combat vehicle, on which the DUBM is mounted.

 

 

   Possibly it is on this pic:

[LoooSeR]

 

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   The first Russian all-wheel drive planing amphibian will be presented at the Army 2020 exhibition. Mil.Press FLOT was told about this by Sergey Tereshenkov, chief designer and head of the machine manufacturer, Baltic Machine-Building Company (BMK). "Drozd" was created on the basis of the universal modular amphibious platform of the same name. It is capable of speeds up to 70 km / h on water and up to 100 km / h on land. A prototype amphibian is currently being tested.

 

   Drozd's hull is a load-bearing composite, thanks to the use of carbon fiber, the weight of the vehicle was reduced to 2 tons. The amphibian is capable of taking another 1.5 tons on board. The wheels of the car are retracted, which increases seaworthiness (up to 3 points at a wave height of 1.25 meters) and provides planing.

The hull is distinguished by mine protection and the ability to install light armor. The wheels are equipped with an on-the-go inflation system.

 

   The "environment change" time is 12 seconds, the car is capable of being thrown onto an unequipped coast at high speed and then continuing to move on wheels.

It also provides for the installation of various weapons - from machine guns and combat modules up to multiple launch rocket launchers.

 

   "Drozd" - patrol and reconnaissance amphibious planing vehicle. Empty vehicle weight - 2 tons, carrying capacity - 1.5 tons. The maximum speed on land is up to 100 km / h, on water - up to 70 km / h. The fuel range is 800 km on land and 300 km on water. The machine is equipped with a 260 hp diesel engine. weighing 120 kg. A three-speed automatic transmission works in tandem with it. The maximum angles of ascent and roll are 30 degrees, the height of the surmounted ledge is up to 0.5 meters. Clearance - 420 mm. "Drozd" is also equipped with a high-speed vertical winch for self-recovery, which is also an anchor winch.

https://flot.com/2020/ФорумАрмия95/

 

 

 

[LoooSeR]

   Decided to collect all of variants of Vodnik that i can find. For those who are unfamiliar with Vodnik - this is a modular car, a platform to be precise, that was in development in late 80s-early 90s by GAZ and was supposed to be offered both for military and for civilian market. It was in production for some time in small numbers, so some amount of those vehicles are floating around. Initially design programm was ordered by MoD of USSR in mid 80s. Currently almost not used anywhere, except Uruguay.

   Car was build on a platrofm by adding 2 modules on top of it ("cabin" and "cargo"). Some parts of BTR-80 were used - torsion bar suspension, and some other parts of suspension.

   Prototype, 1994 IIRC

 

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   Civilian versions:

 

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Sport version:

 

 

 

   Military vehicles:

 

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   APC:

 

   With MGs installed:

 

   APC, with turret and 14.5 mm caliber KPVT HMG

 

   Uparmored variant:

 

   Another version of uparmored variant:

 

   With BTR-82 combat module and 30 mm 2A72 autocannon:

 

   AA variant with proposed optical scanner-based AA combat module, some pics in AA thread

 

   Light weight version, "buggy", GAZ-3937D Dragoon.

 

   Mortar carrier:

 

   Medevac:

 

   In Syria:

 

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   Uruguay

[Lord_James]

cross posting this, because it is Russian tank, and it has the new T-72 UBKH, @LoooSeR's fAVoRitE!  

 

https://warthunder.com/en/news/6830-development-new-t-72-modifications-here-come-the-top-of-the-line-russians-en

[LoooSeR]

   Strela ampibious verion

 

[LoooSeR]

   Looks like there is a vision system for AFVs that is going to be shown at Army 2020, "glass armor" type.

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"Parallax" supervisory terrain observation and aiming system for BMP-3, operating on the principle of "transparent armor",

https://rostec.ru/news/rostekh-predstavit-svyshe-1100-razrabotok-na-armii-2020/

[LoooSeR]

   Vitaliy Kuzmin already at the place where Army 2020 will be held.

[Beer]

This accident is currently blocking a road I need to pass shortly. VT-34 (Czechoslovak ARV based on T-34-85) fell of the trailer after the truck crashed into another car. Photos under the link. 

https://www.idnes.cz/praha/zpravy/tank-spadl-z-navesu-nehoda-policie-kutnohorsko.A200821_153721_praha-zpravy_rsr/foto/RSR858adb_Ef8iHkTXsAA2arv1.jpg

[LoooSeR]

   Near the end BMP-1 shoots main gun several times vs car. Note side uparmored side armor and screen thing in front, covering tracks (to cover heat signature?)

 

[LoooSeR]

 

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   "High-precision complexes" of the State Corporation Rostec handed over the modernized prototypes of the Sprut-SDM1 tank for state tests. Over the next year and a half, vehicle will be tested in the field in the military formations of the RF Ministry of Defense.

 

   Sprut-SDM1 will be tested in sea and high altitude conditions, in different climatic zones, including at air temperatures from -40 to +40 ° C, shooting tests are provided for at each stage. Based on the results of state tests, the design documentation for the new tank will be approved with the assignment of the letter "O1", which will allow to start serial production. Subsequently, following the results of the work of the interdepartmental commission, the machine will be recommended for adoption by the Russian army.

 

   "The modernized light amphibious tank "Sprut-SDM1" has become more mobile due to the installation of the engine, transmission, suspension assemblies, chassis information and control system, which have already been tested on BMD-4M and BMP-3. In addition, it was possible to achieve an increase in command control; the updated vehicle has a software and hardware complex for operation as part of an automated tactical control system. Combat power is enhanced by a new digital fire control system. There are no analogues of Sprut-SDM1 in the world, and therefore it has a high export potential,” said Vladimir Artyakov, First Deputy General Director of Rostec State Corporation.

 

[LoooSeR]

On 7/1/2020 at 4:29 PM, LoooSeR said:

   Hey, MT-LB may be put to rest, finally. It is possible it will be replaced with JGBT-LB MGTT-LB.

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   The new multi-purpose tracked tractors MGTT-LB and MGSH-LBU, which are modifications of the oldest of the Russian Federation Ground Forces vehicles of this class MT-LB, will be shown for the first time at the Army 2020 military-technical forum. This was reported by RIA Novosti with reference to the press service of JSC Remdiesel.

 

   “At the upcoming Army expo, we will for the first time demonstrate the modernized MGTT-LB and MGSh-LBU crawler tractors, which were worked on as part of the "Reconstruction" experimental design work on the tactical and technical assignment of the Russian Defense Ministry. As a result, we were able to increase such indicators as mobility, protection, ergonomics, handling, payload and firepower, ” said the company representative.

   It is known that prototypes of modernized machines of Remdiesel JSC have already been manufactured and are being tested.

 

   The Army 2020 forum will be held from August 23 to 28, 2020 at the main exhibition site of the Russian Ministry of Defense, the Patriot Park.

 

 

   At Army 2020:

[LoooSeR]

On 8/18/2020 at 3:54 AM, LoooSeR said:

   BTR-82AT with new turret/combat module

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   BTR-82AT armored personnel carrier with a new combat module

 

   The BTR-82AT armored personnel carrier with a new combat module and a set of protective and cage armor in terms of the composition of the armament complex, protection and the ability to solve tactical and fire missions, in fact, has turned into a wheeled BMP. Thanks to the implemented measures, the combat effectiveness coefficient of the BTR-82AT increased by 1.2 times compared to the BTR-82A.

 

   A set of protective and slat armor plates mounted on the hull and turret significantly increases the anti-bullet and anti-HEAT resistance when hit by ammunition from large-caliber machine guns and anti-tank rocket grenades.

   Additional protection installed on the BTR-82AT increased the combat weight of the armored personnel carrier to 17.25 tons, which limited the vehicle's ability to overcome water obstacles by swimming. However, when the uparmor kit removed from the machine, it is again capable of performing this task.

 

   At the Army-2020 International Military-Technical Forum, the BTR-82AT is being demonstrated for the first time with the BTR-BM remotely controlled combat module (DUBM).

 

   As the main and secondary weapons in the BTR-BM DBM, a 30-mm 2A42 automatic cannon and a 7.62-mm PKTM machine gun paired with it, respectively. In addition, a 9K111-1M Konkurs-M guided missile system with two 9M113M ATGM launchers was installed on the DUBM. As an auxiliary weapon, there are 6 launchers of the 902V Tucha smoke layingsystem.

 

   Thanks to the thermal imaging channel, the detection range of BMP-BTR-type targets at night increased from 1,200 m to 3,000 m. The presence of an automatic target tracking system significantly increases the likelihood of hitting moving targets on the move, regardless of the operator's training level. The combat module is controlled from the automated workstation of the gunner-operator, installed in the chassis of the combat vehicle, on which the DUBM is mounted.

   Possibly it is on this pic:

 

 

[LoooSeR]

   BMP-3 with Parallax observation system.

 

   BMP-3 Manul (Boomerang-BM on top of BMP-3 Dragoon)

 

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   MGTT-LB

 

   BMP-2M with Berezhok

 

   BMP-3M

[Beer]

T-34-85 in biathlon...

 

[alanch90]

22 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

   BMP-3 with Parallax observation system.

 

 

It's a little curious choice to demonstrate the Parallax on a BMP-3 first. If anything, there are tons of new AFVs with unmanned turrets that can benefit much more from this technology (and also they already have built in 360 deg camera systems, its just a matter of adapting the software and plugins in the visor). As for the visor it seems just like a commercially available VR visor right? It should have a mounting system integrated into tank crew helmet, just like the infantry mounts NVD devices to their helmets.

 

Lastly, i like the BMP 3 Manul very much. @LoooSeR could you please translate what it says in this picture? It's too pixelated for Google Translate.

 

 

[LoooSeR]

2 hours ago, alanch90 said:

It's a little curious choice to demonstrate the Parallax on a BMP-3 first. If anything, there are tons of new AFVs with unmanned turrets that can benefit much more from this technology (and also they already have built in 360 deg camera systems, its just a matter of adapting the software and plugins in the visor). As for the visor it seems just like a commercially available VR visor right? It should have a mounting system integrated into tank crew helmet, just like the infantry mounts NVD devices to their helmets.

 

Lastly, i like the BMP 3 Manul very much. @LoooSeR could you please translate what it says in this picture? It's too pixelated for Google Translate.

 

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   Nothing interesting on this placard, like frontal engine, amount of dismounts (8), max speed, etc.

[LoooSeR]

   BTR-BM turret on BTR-82AT also have up to 70 degr. main gun elevation, can be reloaded from inside, about 1.9t with ammunition loaded.

 

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   Typhoon-PVO, pic showing it inside:

 

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   Anti-UAV vehicle "Rat' " equipped with laser.

 

   Detection with radar, microwave and laser can be used against UAVs. Vehicle is build using parts from Kamaz, armored against bullets 7N13 and B32 and mine protection (up to 4 kg under wheels and vehicle belly).

 

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   UAV detection at 3.5 km max with radar and optical system, 2.5 km - directed radio-electronic jamming, 1.5 km - automatic search and jamming of radiosignals, up to 1 km - direct destruction of UAV with a laser.

 

 

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[LoooSeR]

   Well, that was embarrassing. Somebody was using expired GL-ATGMs from stocks or something else was wrong.

 

27:18 - T-90A misses target with GL-ATGM (hit ground before getting to "tank"), 2nd launch was not shown (i suspect missed, announcer didn't told about hit), 3rd missile hit. 1 out of 3.

 

36:20 - T-80U cannon vibrates like on those videos of Oplots from European tank competition. 37:08 - missile launch, missed (flies over target). Next GL-ATGM (37:44), same thing - missile flies above target, missed. 3rd one managed to hit a tank. 1/3

 

45:15 - T-80UE-1, GL-ATGM flies way above target. 2nd one hit (not sure if it was solid hit), 3rd also probably was hit. 2/3

 

54:57 - T-72B3s. 4 GL-ATGM launches, all 4 hits. 4/4

 

1:11:10 - T-80BVM. 1st missed, managed to hit a forst about 150-200 meters behind targets, didn't saw 2nd one (announcer didn't told about hit, i guess it missed as 1st and 2nd were launched very quickly and on videofeed of targeted tanks there were no hits) and 3rd one hit a tree behind targets. 0/3

 

So, in total 16 GL-ATGM launches, 8 hits.