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The 34th BM Oplot-T tank, manufactured by Malyshev Plant under the 2011 contract for Thailand. Kharkov, May 25, 2017 (c) Dylan Malyasov

 

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The 32nd BM Oplot-T tank, manufactured by Malyshev Plant under the 2011 contract for Thailand. Kharkov, May 25, 2017 (c) Dylan Malyasov

 

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Presumably, the 35th BM Oplot-T tank, manufactured by Malyshev Plant under the 2011 contract for Thailand. Kharkov, May 25, 2017 (c) Dylan Malyasov

 

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Turret of the 36th Oplot-T, manufactured by Malyshev Plant under the 2011 contract for Thailand. Kharkov, May 25, 2017 (c) Dylan Malyasov


 

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On 5/27/2017 at 5:54 AM, Mighty_Zuk said:

It's true, it can. Don't know since when exactly, but it's visible in test footage, which is plentiful.

e.g at 1:14:

 

 

Interesting.  That definitely does look like an actual neutral steer.

 

On 5/27/2017 at 9:28 AM, Met749 said:

He can(Oplot-M) for new BKP with GOP-900 Hydraulic transmission
http://www.morozov.com.ua/eng/body/gop900.php

 

Do all Oplot-M actually have this transmission?  Per another poster here, the Kharkov design bureau designed several gearboxes that could neutral steer, but never actually mass produced them:

 

On 2/22/2017 at 0:47 AM, Levi said:

GTD-1250 transmission on tanks in Russian inventory is not different from GTD-1000 transmission. At least not fundamentally, probably the ranges are slightly different, I'm not entirely sure about that. Again, I should strees it that transmission with hydrostatic steering was never produced - Russian military was not interested in it, and no foreign customers have been found.

Neutral steer is possible with BKP mechanically wise, but iirc control system does not have this option.

Oplot has pretty much the same transmission setup as T-64, but with external gearset for reverse, so that the vehicle can move backwards on any range.
There is also a bizzare version with hydrostatic steering, that doesn't have any links between BKPs other than engine's crankshaft. It has two IVTs each paralleled to the mechanical part of respective BKP so that reduction can be made continuously without shifting down. But it is forever in development and was never produced. No schematics available.

 

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Comrades posted that on otvaga, so i repost it here.

 

Looks like Oplot use same type of inserts in turret armor as T-80U (plates with cavities filled with something).

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Worst Korean plackard about T-80U

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Here is a pic of book that says that plates are steel plates with cavities by Met749, Also shows turret frontal armor dimensions.

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3 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

Comrades posted that on otvaga, so i repost it here.

 

Looks like Oplot use same type of inserts in turret armor as T-80U (plates with cavities filled with something).

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Worst Korean plackard about T-80U

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Here is a pic of book that says that plates are steel plates with cavities by Met749, Also shows turret frontal armor dimensions.

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Cast cellular filler

early T-80U style -

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from - http://btvt.info/3attackdefensemobility/armor.htm

 

 

 

 

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https://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/610848.html post and photos from https://www.facebook.com/DilanST

   Some new AFVs from land of Kharkovites

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BTR-60 with a make up, hard to recognise

 

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And here is a fashionable upgrade, hull [roof] was raised, and most importantly it have cool headlights.
A tolerable armored personnel carrier.

 

6x6 Otoman with BMP-1 turret glued on top of that mock-up

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