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Just found this:

 

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said at least 80 people were killed in Douma on Saturday, including around 40 who died from suffocation. But it said the suffocations were the result of shelters collapsing on people inside.

 

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BNFn-0AW8HoJ:www.nbc4i.com/news/u-s-world/syrian-rescuers-medics-say-gas-attack-near-capital-kills-40/1107136922

 

So even the primary mouthpiece for anti-Assad action in Syria is saying 'no chemical attack'.....But the loonies in Washington, London & Paris have already picked up the ball  and gone!

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5 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

Just found this:

 

 

 

 

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BNFn-0AW8HoJ:www.nbc4i.com/news/u-s-world/syrian-rescuers-medics-say-gas-attack-near-capital-kills-40/1107136922

 

So even the primary mouthpiece for anti-Assad action in Syria is saying 'no chemical attack'.....But the loonies in Washington, London & Paris have already picked up the ball  and gone!

At the moment May said that the UK won't join in on strikes unless there's proof that the Syian government did it.

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https://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/720091.html

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   As I expected, Israel hit T4 first of all on the same hangars where Iran's Shahed-129 UAVs were previously believed to be used for strikes against IS fighters in the Syrian desert
   In the photo, the consequences of a attack to one of the two hangars on the T4 via https://twitter.com/HosseinDalirian/status/983917111411081216

 

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One of the Iranian Shaheeds UAVs had previously spotted on an Israeli satellite image just near these hangars

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Meanwhile, in various cities of Iran, the funeral of the first of the seven killed as a result of this strike servicemen of IRGC

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Yuri Lyamin's comments from discussion:

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-This time, it is unlikely that Delilah were used, there are rumors about AGM-142 or even the newest SkySniper.

 

-Khemeymim is completely our base, but T4 is the Syrian base and there basically Syrian planes are based, and the Iranians occupied a very small part of the base and therefore relied on Syrian air defense.

 

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Probably not Delilah but Popeye, or at least some of them were Popeye (due to the damage done to the hangar, as the Popeye's warhead is more than 10 times larger!), and although we hear many 'bangs' that may not have been caught on camera, we definitely see 7 flashes there. It's night time and barely visible, but by looking at the flashes we can tell they're not in the sky but on the ground (hemisphere and flat at the bottom). So the Syrian claim of 100% of the missiles being shot down is wrong, and Russia's claim of only 3 missiles getting through is also wrong. 

 

 

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The good old "senior officials" telling stuff. But they wouldn't be talking to the press if they weren't delivering some message that the establishment wanted to deliver so...

 

Basically they're saying that if Iran makes a move against Israel, they'll topple Assad. It won't be enough to bring down the whole regime, but it will create new dynamics between the new president and Iran, as well as between them both and Israel. 

To better understand this, it comes under the context of Iran threatening Israel with reaction over the recent bombing of the T4 airbase, where several Iranian militants died.

 

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If the Iranians act against Israel from Syrian territory, Syrian President Bashar Assad and his regime will be those that pay the price." 
That is the clear message from senior officials in the Israeli defense establishment and IDF after the top adviser to Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei called a strike on the Syrian T4 airbase "Israel's crime" and said the alleged act would "not remain without response."

 

"Assad's regime and Assad himself will disappear from the map and the world if the Iranians do try to harm Israel or its interests from Syrian territory," said senior officials in the defense establishment. 

"No matter what the price, we will not allow Iran to have a permanent [military] foothold in Syria. We have no other choice," said Liberman.

 

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Senior-security-officials-If-Iran-acts-against-Israel-well-topple-Assad-549457

 

I can't say I approve of this. Syria still needs some ruthless dictator to prevent any uprising and maintain a level of stability. Instability aids none in this region. But maybe they know better than me on whether this will destabilize Syria too far or not.

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16 hours ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

Probably not Delilah but Popeye, or at least some of them were Popeye (due to the damage done to the hangar, as the Popeye's warhead is more than 10 times larger!), and although we hear many 'bangs' that may not have been caught on camera, we definitely see 7 flashes there. It's night time and barely visible, but by looking at the flashes we can tell they're not in the sky but on the ground (hemisphere and flat at the bottom). So the Syrian claim of 100% of the missiles being shot down is wrong, and Russia's claim of only 3 missiles getting through is also wrong. 

 

 

   I saw that video, but i have doubts about it, could be from previous strikes (like Shayrat). Also, 7 missiles with max reported 14 dead means 2 killed per missile? From photos 2-3 impacts were noticed.  

 

10 hours ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

The good old "senior officials" telling stuff. But they wouldn't be talking to the press if they weren't delivering some message that the establishment wanted to deliver so...

 

Basically they're saying that if Iran makes a move against Israel, they'll topple Assad. It won't be enough to bring down the whole regime, but it will create new dynamics between the new president and Iran, as well as between them both and Israel. 

To better understand this, it comes under the context of Iran threatening Israel with reaction over the recent bombing of the T4 airbase, where several Iranian militants died.

 

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Senior-security-officials-If-Iran-acts-against-Israel-well-topple-Assad-549457

 

I can't say I approve of this. Syria still needs some ruthless dictator to prevent any uprising and maintain a level of stability. Instability aids none in this region. But maybe they know better than me on whether this will destabilize Syria too far or not.

They are not "militants", they were official IRGC\Army personal.

 

Assad is not ruthless dictator and not somebody that can prevent any uprising, which is evidend by previous 6-7 years.

 

Toppling Bashar will not make things harder for Iran, probably even easier.

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2 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

   I saw that video, but i have doubts about it, could be from previous strikes (like Shayrat). Also, 7 missiles with max reported 14 dead means 2 killed per missile? From photos 2-3 impacts were noticed.  

 

They are not "militants", they were official IRGC\Army personal.

 

Assad is not ruthless dictator and not somebody that can prevent any uprising, which is evidend by previous 6-7 years.

 

Toppling Bashar will not make things harder for Iran, probably even easier.

In some of the flashes we saw some repeated explosions, and the camera tilted frequently so it's very likely some targets were hit more than once to confirm destruction and breach of the air defense.

 

2-3 per missile is not necessarily bad. In Gaza in 2014 for example, there was a total of 1 person (both civilian and militant) per more than 10 missiles, aerial bombs, and HE artillery shells. Sometimes hitting their infrastructure is more important.

 

Assad can prevent further major uprisings. He didnt know better back in 2011 and neglected his population, but I'm confident he learned his lesson already.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/11/theresa-may-moves-closer-joining-military-action-against-assad/

 

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The Telegraph has learnt that Mrs May has ordered British submarines to move within missile range of Syria in readiness for strikes against the Assad regime that could begin as early as Thursday night.

 

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INTERFAX.RU - Russian Navy ships, starting from April 11, will conduct exercises near the coast of Syria, follow from the international notification for aviation personnel (NOTAM) and navigational warning for seafarers.

   The reports contain the coordinates of the closed area, as well as the conduct of training shooting there.

   The training area, located in the international waters of the Mediterranean, is adjacent to the sea border of Syria. It will be closed on 11-12, 17-19 and 25-26 April from 10 to 18 Moscow time.

   Currently, as part of the permanent operational connection of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea, there are about 15 warships and vessels of the Black Sea Fleet, including the carriers of the Caliber cruise missiles Frigates Admiral Grigorovich and Admiral Essen, as well as submarines.

 

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   Ankara will not transfer Afrin under the control of the Syrian government until the country is headed by Bashar Assad, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said.

   As Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stressed on Monday, Moscow hopes that Ankara will return control over Afrim to the Syrian government. On Tuesday, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that "Lavrov's approach is wrong." According to him, Turkey knows better who to transfer to Afrin, and when the time comes, they will give Afrin to its residents.

   "The Assad regime must go, we need to move on to the process of political settlement, we do not claim Syrian lands, but the transfer of these lands is excluded." The regime is fighting against YPG (Kurdish self-defense forces), but tomorrow they will be fine with each other" Cavusoglu said on NTV channel.

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The Christian district of Jarman in Damascus comes back to normal, he suffered most from shelling from militants

 

   The residents of Jaramana: Security and security are back with the army's victories in the Eastern Ghuta

 

Terrorist warehouses and hospitals in Zemlka reveal depriving civilians of medicines

 

 

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