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According to the Pentagon spokesmen there were 105 missiles fired at 3 targets in Syria and that Syria fired 40 surface to air missiles, mostly after the targets were already hit.

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Yuri Lyamin:

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In general, first strike was met by Syria very well, as I noted yesterday in an interview for "Rossiyskaya Gazeta" the Syrians have an saturated air defense system there, well, and they were waiting for a strike. Now the main question is, will there be new waves of strikes ...

 

Also number of Il-76s and Su-24 of SyAAF were moved to Qamishli several days ago, according to photos. 

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France released information. 5 Raphael, an escort of 4x Mirage 2000-5 and 6 tankers. The whole operation was 10 hours long, refueling in the air 5 times. Luanched 9 missiles (and 3 more added by fleet from the frigate). But no word on the results so far ...

 

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-30 Tomahawk missiles from the Monterey (Ticonderoga cruiser)

-7 Tomahawk missiles from the Laboon (Arleigh Burke destroyer)

-23 Tomahawk missiles from the Higgens (Arleigh Burke destroyer)

-3 MdCN missiles from the Languedoc (FREMM frigate)

-6 Tomahawk missiles from the John Warner (Virginia submarine)

-19 JASSM-ER missiles from B-1 bombers

-8 Storm Shadow missiles from Tornado fighters

-9 SCALP missiles from Rafales fighters

 

Edited by Ramlaen

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3 minutes ago, Donward said:

Sounds like the Syrians hired Bagdad Bob as their press spokesman in regards to the number of missiles they claim to have "shot down".

Sound like Donward have no idea what he is saying.

 

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Location of this "CW weapoon storage"

http://wikimapia.org/#lang=ru&lat=34.695279&lon=36.537566&z=18&m=b

This is basically few buildings between 2 towns.

 

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http://wikimapia.org/#lang=ru&lat=34.681693&lon=36.466563&z=17&m=h

 

100+ cruise missiles against 5-6 shacks and 3 buildings in Damascus.

 

   Also, 76 missiles against this means 1 missile with 0.5 tons warhead per each 2 meters. Yeah, would totally belive that all of them were launched against this target and connected with it.

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8 minutes ago, Donward said:

Sounds like the Syrians hired Bagdad Bob as their press spokesman in regards to the number of missiles they claim to have "shot down".

 

It works if you claim to have shot down missiles headed for 6+ targets when only three were shot at.

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4 minutes ago, Ramlaen said:

 

It works if you claim to have shot down missiles headed for 6+ targets when only three were shot at.

Yeah, and parts of missiles and craters just appeared near Homs on their own

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9 minutes ago, LoooSeR said:

Sound like Donward have no idea what he is saying.

 

 

The key to propaganda is to use numbers that are somewhat believable. 3/4s of US, French, and British missiles weren't shot down by the Syrians. Pick a number that is realistic.

 

1 minute ago, Ramlaen said:

 

It works if you claim to have shot down missiles headed for 6+ targets when only three were shot at.

 

I hate it when the lies don't match the other lies. 

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4 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

Funny how the people clearing up after the mess America just made, don't seem to require any NBC protection isn't it? 

 

The funny part being we didn’t use chemical weapons.

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But you claim you bombed his manufacturing facilities and storage sites.....Where are the escaped materiels?  The toxic plume?

 

It's a load of bullshit and you we all know it.....The only people using chemical weapons are the terrorists that your government our governments fund, train, supply and now fly air cover for.....Frankly you we should all be ashamed.

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mentioned this before and will repeat again. I think calling names and pretending that any side involved in the Syrian Civil War has clean hands is rather sanctimonious

 

Watching the pressers of the President and Secretary of State yesterday, and the Pentagon presser today, the Administration has repeated numerous times now that the goal of the US at the present is to defeat ISIS, it's not regime change.

 

To me it would behoove the Syrians - and their Russian and Iranian puppet masters - not to use chemical weapons. The Trump Administration has shown twice now that using chemical weapons is a Red Line that will be not only punished when crossed, but punishment will be greater each time such a transgression occurs. 

 

Perhaps in the future - if the Syrians really are innocent - the Assad regime will be more assiduous and forthcoming in regards to explaining itself.

 

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And as for us evil Americans picking on poor brown people, I watched part of the British prime minister's address and she seemed far more gung-ho about regime change in Syria than our Administration officials are. 

 

Not sure yet about French posturing.

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50 minutes ago, Donward said:

Not sure yet about French posturing.

 

It seem that so far it was more or less the same reason you gave above.

To remind that if chemical weapons are used there will be retaliations.

 

By Jean-Yves Le Drian (French minister of foreign affairs):

 

« Le but de cette opération, c’était de détruire les outils chimiques clandestins du régime de Bachar Al-Assad et, à cet égard, l’objectif a été atteint. Une bonne partie de son arsenal chimique a été détruite », dont « beaucoup […] par les frappes de cette nuit ».
« Il faut que Bachar Al-Assad en tienne compte, ses alliés aussi. Si d’aventure elle [la ligne rouge] était refranchie, il y aurait une autre intervention, mais je pense que la leçon sera comprise. »

 

Meaning:

 

The goal of this operation was to destroy the clandestine chemical weapons  facility of the Bachar Al-Assad's regime, the objective have been met. A good part of his chemical arsenal have been destroyed, many by the strikes of this night.

Bachar Al-Assad and his allies will need to remember that. If the red line was crossed again, there would be another intervention, but I think they'll understand the lesson.

 

Appart from the political point of view, I think the strikes also served as training.

Apparently the 3 MdCN were fired by 3 different frigates, so it will serve as a validation of the capability and to label the missile as combat proven.

 

Same for the Air strikes.

The Rafales carrying the missiles are two seaters and flew from Saint-Dizier which mean that they are the strategic squadron 1/4 Gascogne:

Spoiler

 

 

The SCALP they fired this time is almost identical the ASMPA (300 kt warhead) they would fire for nuclear dissuasion.

So it most likely served as a demonstration of nuclear dissuasion capability.

In the French doctrine those missiles, supposed to be aimed at a threatening military force, are the last warning before full retaliation with SLBM.

 

Apparently the aerial strike force was composed of 5 Rafale (firing 9 SCALP), covered by 4 Mirage 2000 and 2 E3-F SDCA AWACS and refuelled by 5 C-135FR.

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44 minutes ago, Donward said:

And as for us evil Americans picking on poor brown people, I watched part of the British prime minister's address and she seemed far more gung-ho about regime change in Syria than our Administration officials are.

 

Yeah you are quite right, I'm absolutely sure she was every bit as gung-ho as Trump.....Doesn't make the story true or the attack any less illegal though (I've amended my post accordingly, my apologies to you.).

 

I'm just fucking annoyed and disappointed at what's been done in 'my name' once again.....Nobody asked the British people or even Parliament their opinion, just went ahead and did it.

 

But.....

 

46 minutes ago, Donward said:

Perhaps in the future - if the Syrians really are innocent - the Assad regime will be more assiduous and forthcoming in regards to explaining itself.

 

 

Dude this is some disingenuous crap.....The OPCW are on their way to Douma to verify the facts.  Your ghastly crone at the UN made it clear that as they wouldn't apportion blame (just determine whether such an attack had actually even taken place), this wasn't satisfactory to the US and that they would act as judge, jury and executioner as usual.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Laviduce said:

Will anyone hold these aggressors responsible or will they get a pass again ? The US and their vassals are acting like a collective Hitler, totally out-of-control.

Lol what?

 

 

I don't know if it was posted here earlier, but Russia now wants to sell S-300 systems to Syria:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-missiles/russia-may-consider-supplying-s-300-missile-systems-to-syria-idUSKBN1HL0H3

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That will go down well with their southern neighbours.

 

But if the Russians decide to deliver it in person and maybe supply some technical advisers along with the weapons, it will be a whole different ball game.

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