LostCosmonaut Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I have a somewhat unhealthy obsession with Swedish armored fighting vehicles (although my disease is not quite as bad as T___A's attraction to communist frying pans and the like). By far the most well known Swedish AFV is the Strv 103, one of the more unusual MBT designs from the Cold War. However, there are also numerous other Swedish armored vehicle designs that I find interesting. Such as the Kranvagn, and the Strv 74. If you are interested in learning more about Swedish AFVs, I would highly recommend consulting this excellent site. Be warned, most of the documents therein are in Swedish, so at least have google translate open in another tab. Walter_Sobchak and T___A 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T___A Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 It's interesting to note what the Soviets and what the Swedish thought were viable designs. The Soviets desgined a tank similar to the Strv 103 but it was rejected due to their concerns on aiming the gun of a turretless tank. That_Baka and LostCosmonaut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I think that a turretless tank would be highly unsuitable for the types of operations the Soviets would have undertaken during the Cold War. However, given Sweden's unique set of requirements, and that the Strv 103 would fight in a purely defensive war, I can see how it would be a logical design. That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T___A Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I think that a turretless tank would be highly unsuitable for the types of operations the Soviets would have undertaken during the Cold War. However, given Sweden's unique set of requirements, and that the Strv 103 would fight in a purely defensive war, I can see how it would be a logical design. The Soviets thought turretless tanks weren't even good for that as in their opinion turning the tank to move the gun would reveal the tank's postion. That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Does anybody have any ideas where I might acquire more information (preferably in English) on the Strv A? It appears to have been a competitor to what eventually became the Strv 103, and probably would have ended up as something closer to an M60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priory_of_Sion Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 No love for the IKV 91? I have the Ogorkiewicz book/phamplet on it, seems rather good mobile gun platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 0/10 No Strv-2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 No love for the IKV 91? I have the Ogorkiewicz book/phamplet on it, seems rather good mobile gun platform. The IKV 91 is pretty neat, I'm a fan of it. 0/10 No Strv-2000 It will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter_Sobchak Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 In case anyone wants to download PDFs of Ogorkiewicz old AFV profile magazines on Swedish armor, here are some links. AFV Profile 28 S-Tank AFV Provile 42 Modern Swedish Light Armor T___A and LostCosmonaut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 For all your STRV-2000 needs. As for the concepts that S-tank beat out, I've only ever seen the FTR writeup:http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/08/06/swedish-tanks-part-xv-strv-a-strv-t-strv-k/ Belesarius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priory_of_Sion Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Can we compare the IKV 91 to the other light tanks of the period(M551, AMX-13-90, PT-76, FV101, & Type 62)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T___A Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 IKV 91 is a lot more comparable to the Object 934 than the PT-76. That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priory_of_Sion Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 IKV 91 is a lot more comparable to the Object 934 than the PT-76. Obj. 934 wasn't in service in the 1970s which is why I used the term "of the period". The PT-76 is a little out-classed by the 1970s but it is still the main light tank of the USSR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 IKV 91 is rather tall IMO. STRV-2000 is hilarious; that 140mm cannon was utterly nuts, and the Russians are eternal poor sports for quitting the Cold War so it didn't have anything that needed shot at with a gun that gigantic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 IKV 91 is rather tall IMO. STRV-2000 is hilarious; that 140mm cannon was utterly nuts, and the Russians are eternal poor sports for quitting the Cold War so it didn't have anything that needed shot at with a gun that gigantic. Big gun = best gun There's always a reason for big gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priory_of_Sion Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 IKV 91 is rather tall IMO. The IKV 91 is shorter than Sheridan and only .02 m taller than the AMX-13 and Type 62. The PT-76 is about .1 m shorter and the FV101 is .2 m shorter. The IKV 91 is significantly longer than its contemporaries.I'm pretty sure it's 2 meters longer than all other light tanks of the period. The FV101 is tiny BTW and has the lowest ground pressure by a large margin. I made a table of light tank characteristics circa 1975. I'm probably off on some of the numbers so don't be surprised by some off info. That_Baka and LoooSeR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted November 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 A goon called The_Fluff went archive diving, and found blueprints for a Swedish tank destroyer / gun carrier concept; Priory_of_Sion, LoooSeR, AdmiralTheisman and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priory_of_Sion Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 To discuss a more modern Swedish AFV, the CV90120-T. Will it find a viable user? It would seem that it a very marketable vehicle among NATO and allied countries that would like to have an airliftable 120 mm gun platform. Russia has the 2S25 and China has the ZTQ which are roughly equivalent in role. The CV90120T needs to be on one of those match-making reality shows. That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 To discuss a more modern Swedish AFV, the CV90120-T. Will it find a viable user? It would seem that it a very marketable vehicle among NATO and allied countries that would like to have an airliftable 120 mm gun platform. Russia has the 2S25 and China has the ZTQ which are roughly equivalent in role. The CV90120T needs to be on one of those match-making reality shows. In all fairness, while the Type-62G variant is a really badass light tank, their production (aswell as the entire ZTQ-62 line) has been retired for nearly 2 years now and plans for what will be done with the remaining vehicles is still up in the air. So it might be out of this race before it even begins. There is a new "light" variant of the Type-99A2 family that's been spotted a few times though, though little is really known about it, let alone whether or not it will be offered for export. That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Proposed up-armor package for the S-tank: That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priory_of_Sion Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Was there any proposals to increase firepower of the S tank or was Sweden betting on all of the Soviet MBTs being on mainland Europe and decided that the 105 was good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Per Tanknet, S-tank got new APFSDS, but it wasn't as potent as the APFDS used in their centurions at around the same time because the autoloader couldn't handle the longer rounds. S-tank looks hard to upgun: There's basically no air around the gun (It's more or less built into the glacis), so it's hard to put a bigger gun in. There's also no space around the magazine, so any proposed bigger gun would be firing ammo with the same OAL to 105mm. And as per the anecdote above, it was already restricted to stubby 105mm ammo already. You could probably fit a longer-barreled version of the 110mm; at least the earlier ones with one-piece ammo. The RO roided-up L7 with higher pressure ammo might work too, assuming that the AL is gentle enough it doesn't mangle the combustible case rounds. Neither of those is really drastically more capable than the L7 itself is though; certainly both fall short of the mighty fury of the Rheinmetall 120mm smoothbore. That_Baka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priory_of_Sion Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 British report on the S Tank. I really wish they had this in PDF instead of 168 different pictures. Still, renhenxue and sp15 seem to be pretty cool. It would be nice to get those dudes on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 For all your STRV-2000 needs. As for the concepts that S-tank beat out, I've only ever seen the FTR writeup: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/08/06/swedish-tanks-part-xv-strv-a-strv-t-strv-k/ Such a neat looking Light tank/TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Vehicle_90 One of my favorite units in Wargame Red Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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