LoooSeR Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 About T-80UE-1 and UA Quote Modernized tanks T-80UE-1 and T-80UA were adopted by Russia in 2005. Modernization of the T-80UE-1 involves a T-80BV with the turret of the T-80UD tank installed. OZTM is currently upgrading the T-80BV to the level of T-80UE-1 including the installation of the turret from the recycled T-80UD tanks (which is similar to the T-80U), the upgraded FCS 1A45-1 and a number of other improvements. In general, the level of the modernized T-80U-1 will correspond to the modern T-90 and slightly exceed the T-80U. Naturally, this modernization is much more expensive than the overhaul of the T-80U. T-80U mordernization is called T-80UA. Basically same upgrade, but if T-80BV is getting new FCS and some other changes it get T-80UE-1 designation, if T-80U - then T-80UA. But T-80UE-1s can have differences between them... Some T-80UE-1, according to photos posted on Otvaga, have "Plissa" thermal imager, but part of T-80UE-1s have PL-1 IR lamp. Spoiler GurKhan explains: Quote T-80UE-1, or Object 219АS-1 was developed within the framework of R & D "Motobol" in two variants of Sp1 and Sp2. Sp1 - the first stage of R & D, Sp2 - respectively, the second. At the first stage commander received "Agat-S" sight, and gunner got "Buran-M", and instead of L-4 IR lamp, PL-1 was installed. At the second stage, the FCS was brought to the level of the modernized T-80U, to T-80UA (219AM-1) level. At the same time, Plissa and 1V528-1M ballistic computer were installed. Similar story with T-80UA, by the way, first received the "Buran-M" [and Pl-1], and later - "Plissa". So T-80UE-1 Sp1 is variant with PL-1 IR laser projector, Sp2 - with Plissa thermal imager. T-80UA also have similar 2 variants (with PL-1 and second one with Plissa), although no designations that i know. Also: Quote There was no tank with just "UE" designation. Somebody is just lazy to write "-1". There is a nuance: the design bureau always writes T-80U-1, and in some documents the GABTU T-80U-E1, but in both cases it's about the same vehicle... And if tank have RCWS - it may be either UD or UE-1, if not - them U or UA. Cyprus got special variant T-80, similar to UA but without Ainet and with older mechanical loader. And one more moment - PL-1 is not a give away of model of T-80, as IR lamps on normal T-80Us could have been swaped for PL-1 during repairs (without any modernisations or changes inside). One notorious thing in UE-1 - some ammunition is located in the turret. I guess fuck everybody inside was MoD moto. To summarize: T-80UE-1 is T-80BV with T-80UD turret, new FCS and sights, with 1250HP gas turbine installed and Kontakt-5 build in ERA package on both hull and turret. T-80UE-1 Sp1 have PL-1 IR laser projector, while T-80UE-1 Sp2 received Plissa thermal imager. And both Sp1 and Sp2 have ammunition fucking stuffed everywhere in turret. Zyklon, FORMATOSE, Scolopax and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Ammo used as armor. Smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Huge thanks for the explanation @LoooSeR.....The detail photos will be massively useful too, I have to assemble the new IR lamp from seven or eight parts in 1/72 scale so every bit of extra information is a real blessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 T-80BVM in Murmansk with T-90M-like side armor removed and old T-90 K-5 side armor modules installed. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 T-80BVM with those side armor modules is glorified T-72B2 Rogatka Spoiler or that old T-80 modernisation with same kit as T-72B2 had... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Relikt module on the front, K-5 modules on the sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 Murmansk Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LoooSeR Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 T-80U, 2010 Some of previous pre-TBs competitions. I thought that T-80s will participate in main TB competition, but it didn't happened, sadly. Spoiler Stimpy75 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 61st tank repair factory, T-80BV. Photos from otvaga Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohrkrepierer Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 On 5/5/2016 at 9:59 PM, Militarysta said: 120mm L-44 Leo-2: DM13 (1979) - 440mm RHA DM23 (1985) - 480mm RHA May I ask what the source for that is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Well, as T-80UA was mentioned in general tank identification thread, i think it should be covered here. In a post about T-80UE-1 i touched it slightly, now a bit more about this version of T-80U. First, this tank officially is accepted to service: Quote Modernized tanks T-80BA (Object 219RB), T-80UA (Object 219AM-1) and T-80UE1 (Object 219AS-1) have been accepted by the Presidential Decree from 04/16/2005 No. 435F for supply, and the order of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation of 27.05.2005 No. 043 - and for service T-80UA is T-80U that gone through some modernisation - mainly FCS and sights. According to GurKhan: Quote The upgrade consist of: - 2A46M-4; - Modernized fire control system 1A45-1; - UUI-2 gun muzzle reference system; - Day and night sights of the commander TO1-KO4; - Night sights of the gunner TO1-KO5 (as an option the thermal sight of "Plisa" can be installed); - Complex of optic-electronic suppression "Shtora". So how many vehicles gone through this modernization? And again Gurkhan on subject: Quote T-80UA - under this standard all tanks delivered to Cyprus were upgraded + about 10 vehicles for the Russian Army were modernized Basically this vehicle is nearly non-existant. Also, AFAIK T-80s for Cyprus received special modernisation, so it is even harder to tell apart UAs from Us and UKs. Cyprus T-80Us or T-80UAs without Shtora: Spoiler T-80UAs or UKs Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 T-80Us of the Kantemirovskaya division during recent exercises. Spoiler Stimpy75 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Upper picture is how T-80 was expected by Americans to look like Zyklon, Krieger22, That_Baka and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei_bt Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 The welded turret of such shape was really developed in 70-s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 Gur Khan has an interesting article on the T-80UE-1: http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2018/07/80-80-1.html Does anyone have a picture of the rear turret of one of these, apparently the turret came from the T-80UD, so I'm interested to know what's the score with the filter normally found on turbine T-80s? PS - Apologies to @Andrei_bt if I've misattributed this.....Embarrassing lack of language skills on my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warford Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 One of the very first images to be released of the M1983/1 (T-80B) spotted in the GSFG (5 April 1983): Image from GSFG (22 Feb 1984): Image from GSFG (Aug 1985): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 On 7/11/2018 at 4:30 PM, LoooSeR said: Upper picture is how T-80 was expected by Americans to look like I remember that version of the T-80 being on the cover of at least a couple of different fictional books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: /.../ Does anyone have a picture of the rear turret of one of these, apparently the turret came from the T-80UD, so I'm interested to know what's the score with the filter normally found on turbine T-80s? /.../ Not exactly a rear part of the turret, but turret mounted filter is visible on T-80UE-1 Sgt.Squarehead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karamazov Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Does anyone have a picture of the rear turret of one of these, apparently the turret came from the T-80UD, so I'm interested to know what's the score with the filter normally found on turbine T-80s? Rear turret of the T-80UE-1 is the same as the T-80BV or many T-80's before UE. Photo by Vitaly Kuzmin from his personal photoblog https://www.vitalykuzmin.net/Military/Forum-ARMY2016-All-photos/i-bncCnHk Sgt.Squarehead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 Thanks gents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Warford Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 On 7/11/2018 at 3:30 PM, LoooSeR said: Upper picture is how T-80 was expected by Americans to look like Not true...that drawing was published in the 1981 edition of the Pentagon's annual journal, "Soviet Military Power." That journal was primarily a propaganda tool used by the US DOD and it included many hypothetical drawings over the years to include this infamous "T-80." While it's true that there was some confusion around identifying the T-80 exactly (which was finally corrected for the public in that unclassified journal in the 1986 edition), classified reporting regarding the T-80 had already been in use for many years before the published photo in 1986. A CIA report published in Oct 1979 (2 years before the release of the hypothetical drawing above), for example, confirms the first sighting of the actual T-80 with a photo. Collimatrix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 T-80UE-1 Sp2, photo by Marinir, from preparation to TB-2018 Karamazov 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Marinir's photo of T-80U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Does the turbine really smoke that much, or are those perchance filthy Kharkovite T-80UDs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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