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About T-80UE-1 and UA

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   Modernized tanks T-80UE-1 and T-80UA were adopted by Russia in 2005. 

   Modernization of the T-80UE-1 involves a T-80BV with the turret of the T-80UD tank installed. OZTM is currently upgrading the T-80BV to the level of T-80UE-1 including the installation of the turret from the recycled T-80UD tanks (which is similar to the T-80U), the upgraded FCS 1A45-1 and a number of other improvements. In general, the level of the modernized T-80U-1 will correspond to the modern T-90 and slightly exceed the T-80U. Naturally, this modernization is much more expensive than the overhaul of the T-80U. T-80U mordernization is called T-80UA.

   Basically same upgrade, but if T-80BV is getting new FCS and some other changes it get T-80UE-1 designation, if T-80U - then T-80UA. But T-80UE-1s can have differences between them...

   Some T-80UE-1, according to photos posted on Otvaga, have "Plissa" thermal imager, but part of T-80UE-1s have PL-1 IR lamp.

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GurKhan explains:

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   T-80UE-1, or Object 219АS-1 was developed within the framework of R & D "Motobol" in two variants of Sp1 and Sp2. Sp1 - the first stage of R & D, Sp2 - respectively, the second.
   At the first stage commander received "Agat-S" sight, and gunner got "Buran-M", and instead of L-4 IR lamp, PL-1 was installed.

   At the second stage, the FCS was brought to the level of the modernized T-80U, to T-80UA (219AM-1) level. At the same time, Plissa and 1V528-1M ballistic computer were installed.
   Similar story with T-80UA, by the way, first received the "Buran-M" [and Pl-1], and later - "Plissa".

   So T-80UE-1 Sp1 is variant with PL-1 IR laser projector, Sp2 - with Plissa thermal imager. T-80UA also have similar 2 variants (with PL-1 and second one with Plissa), although no designations that i know.

 

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   There was no tank with just "UE" designation. Somebody is just lazy to write "-1". There is a nuance: the design bureau always writes T-80U-1, and in some documents the GABTU T-80U-E1, but in both cases it's about the same vehicle...

 

   And if tank have RCWS - it may be either UD or UE-1, if not - them U or UA. Cyprus got special variant T-80, similar to UA but without Ainet and with older mechanical loader. And one more moment - PL-1 is not a give away of model of T-80, as IR lamps on normal T-80Us could have been swaped for PL-1 during repairs (without any modernisations or changes inside).

 

   One notorious thing in UE-1 - some ammunition is located in the turret. I guess fuck everybody inside was MoD moto.

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   To summarize:

   T-80UE-1 is T-80BV with T-80UD turret, new FCS and sights, with 1250HP gas turbine installed and Kontakt-5 build in ERA package on both hull and turret. T-80UE-1 Sp1 have PL-1 IR laser projector, while T-80UE-1 Sp2 received Plissa thermal imager. And both Sp1 and Sp2 have ammunition fucking stuffed everywhere in turret.

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Huge thanks for the explanation @LoooSeR.....The detail photos will be massively useful too, I have to assemble the new IR lamp from seven or eight parts in 1/72 scale so every bit of extra information is a real blessing.

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T-80BVM with those side armor modules is glorified T-72B2 Rogatka

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or that old T-80 modernisation with same kit as T-72B2 had...

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T-80U, 2010

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Some of previous pre-TBs competitions. I thought that T-80s will participate in main TB competition, but it didn't happened, sadly.

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