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12 hours ago, Xlucine said:

HR lady had to stay behind to pilot the ship, but just swanned about the bridge melodramatically until it was her turn to an hero

30 ships carrying 400 or so people left the cruiser, I counted around 5-7 ish(strangely, 5 in a shot where they're flying away from the viewer and then 7 when they're moving across the viewer's screen towards their right shoulder immediately following) when she actually got in the pilot's seat to turn the thing around

 

12 hours ago, Xlucine said:

- The empire seems to have an endless supply of ever larger triangles

I was griping on Discord a week or two ago about how basically The First Order has an infinite money RTS cheat code hidden somewhere. Since the "defeat" at Jakku, it has basically gone out and colonized the Unknown Regions(Basically 1/4 of The Galaxy and off limits to common astronavigation), mobilized a new interstellar civilization and fully encapsulated economy in the span of 30 years, handled a counterintel campaign to discredit and mitigate political forces in the New Republic's Senate, and organized a galaxy spanning child kidnapping ring to create a new Stormtrooper Corps and an interstellar navy that, according to Battlefront II(which is part of Disney Canon), basically has all the Star Destroyers(30% bigger than Imperial models) it needs to conquer The Galaxy. Securing Luke was just tying up a loose end.

 

12 hours ago, Xlucine said:

Also fin used to dust the maguffin, but never mentioned it to anyone and was just as surprised as everyone else when the maguffin was used.

Another thing, what is with the Almighty Janitors(Rose and Finn) knowing about ALL of this tech?

 

12 hours ago, Xlucine said:

Whatever happened to snoke's ship, that rey purloined? It'd probably have been useful on not-hoth, with rey piloting one and a team of porgs manning the guns on the falcon.

IIRC that was just an "escape pod", not even an armed shuttle or anything

 

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On 12/22/2017 at 12:13 PM, Sturgeon said:

I note that this article, which essentially recaps the highlight moments of the film, doesn't include any mention of the damned casino planet segment.

 

They could have taken that whole bit out and it would have made the movie much leaner and more enjoyable.

 

I went to pee during the casino planet part, and I think I picked a good point in the movie. 

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The dude who posted the play by play rant of TLJ I shared on the forum earlier finished an in depth teardown of the film in a 3 part series. Altogether it's the longest review I've seen on the film.

 

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6 hours ago, Legiondude said:

The dude who posted the play by play rant of TLJ I shared on the forum earlier finished an in depth teardown of the film in a 3 part series. Altogether it's the longest review I've seen on the film.

 

 

Wait. This is a FIVE hour rant over three parts for a two and a half hour movie? 

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3 minutes ago, Sturgeon said:

 

I reeeaaaaaaallly don't care about Star Wars that much...

 

You can basically watch Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and the good parts of Return of the Jedi over the same time span.

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So the explanation Disney is pushing in their new book as to why Rey has such skills with a lightsaber and the force in TLJ is because she basically downloaded them from Kylo's brain when they had Force Skype calls

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25 minutes ago, Legiondude said:

So the explanation Disney is pushing in their new book as to why Rey has such skills with a lightsaber and the force in TLJ is because she basically downloaded them from Kylo's brain when they had Force Skype calls

 

Do Disney, in its infinite wisdom, decides to address the fans' concern over Rey obtaining so many Force skills without any training by explaining that she has an entirely new and different and never before mentioned Force skill that no one has ever heard before that she just happens to possess and uses with zero consequences. 

 

Un-fucking-believable. 

 

Hollywood has degraded to the point where it is fundamentally incapable of making a good Star Wars movie. 

 

Worse, Hollywood has degraded to the point where it is unaware and oblivious of the fact that it is fundamentally incapable of making a good Star Wars movie.

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7 hours ago, Legiondude said:

So the explanation Disney is pushing in their new book as to why Rey has such skills with a lightsaber and the force in TLJ is because she basically downloaded them from Kylo's brain when they had Force Skype calls

 

 

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I knew a couple of kids in school (two different districts) named DJ. The "disc jockey" thing was fairly low on conversational starters. Although perhaps I always subconsciously ignored it because my first and middle name is "Donald James" but nobody ever thought of calling me "DJ". Probably because the whole Don James being the coach of the UW Huskies when I was a kid happened to be lower hanging fruit when I was in school. 

 

What I felt was strained was the notion that del Toro's character was named "Don't Join". Where was that brought up in the movie? Is it some sort of fan fic?

 

Also, I'm glad Jenny can overcome the disaster of her previous Last Jedi YouTube commentary by spreading around those Easter snakes. 

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mean, the bigger Star Wars plothole was the notion that the audience was just supposed to sit there and grin while Lucas introduced a clone trooper named "Commander Cody" as if everyone in the audience wouldn't then be jarred out of the imaginary storyline to wonder why Lucas was making a reference to "Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen".

 

 

 

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And here I thought the biggest plot hole was that 

On 3/14/2018 at 12:33 AM, Donward said:

 

Do Disney, in its infinite wisdom, decides to address the fans' concern over Rey obtaining so many Force skills without any training by explaining that she has an entirely new and different and never before mentioned Force skill that no one has ever heard before that she just happens to possess and uses with zero consequences. 

 

Un-fucking-believable. 

 

Hollywood has degraded to the point where it is fundamentally incapable of making a good Star Wars movie. 

 

Worse, Hollywood has degraded to the point where it is unaware and oblivious of the fact that it is fundamentally incapable of making a good Star Wars movie.

 

The sad thing is that I liked the character of Rey quite a bit in Force Awakens.  I think Daisy Ridley is probably a better actor than Mark Hamill when he did the first Star Wars movie.  Unfortunately they pretty much ruined her as a character in Last Jedi.  As they did Po, and Finn.  God, what a shit movie.

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1 hour ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

And here I thought the biggest plot hole was that 

 

The sad thing is that I liked the character of Rey quite a bit in Force Awakens.  I think Daisy Ridley is probably a better actor than Mark Hamill when he did the first Star Wars movie.  Unfortunately they pretty much ruined her as a character in Last Jedi.  As they did Po, and Finn.  God, what a shit movie.

 

I think the problem - one of the problems - is that Disney has gone bargain basement with the directors of these films. I don't know if it's an issue where "serious" directors don't want to be involved in an obvious money-grubbing re-hash of a franchise that should never have been re-booted. 

 

Other than JJ Abrams - who has his strengths and weaknesses as a director - Disney has been dredging up nobodies to run  what is supposed to be a multi-billion dollar franchise. We all know that Rian Johnson was an absolute clusterfuck being allowed to direct AND write The Last Jedi and the guy has done nothing except Loopers FFS. 

 

But he's not the only one.

 

Rogue One - which is an OK film - was directed by some guy called Gareth Edwards. What sort of name is "Gareth" by the way? He's another nobody who has no resume other than the re-boot of the re-boot for Godzilla. And Lord help me how modern American directors have found a way to make worse, more unrealistic Godzilla movies than their Japanese counterparts with a dude smashing up an Erector set in a rubber dinosaur suit, but Hollywood can't make a Godzilla movie for shit either.

 

And the Han Solo origin story is an even more extreme example. Disney gave the origin story to one of the most iconic sci-fi characters in history to the douche-bags that did the re-boot of 21 Jump Street franchise and the Lego movie. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Lord_and_Christopher_Miller#Career

 

What world do the Disney executives inhabit where they think that 21 (and 22) Jump Street movies are good and the film's directors should be given free rein to direct your flagship movie for the summer of 2018? it's just boggles the mind. The fortunate thing is that someone came to their senses when they took a look at the rough cuts and realized that - surprise! - the directors were making an ironic comedy movie. 

 

So Disney brought Ron Howard in to salvage the Han Solo movie and - according to the movie rags - he re-shot EVERY SINGLE SCENE. 

 

I'm cautiously optimistic about Solo since I respect Ron Howard as a director. He's not the greatest director in the world but the guy has a solid resume in front of and behind the camera. And what I didn't know was that George Lucas wanted him to direct The Phantom menace prequel which probably would have given us a less sucky Anakin and a less sucky JarJar Binks story line.

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1 hour ago, Donward said:

 

I think the problem - one of the problems - is that Disney has gone bargain basement with the directors of these films. I don't know if it's an issue where "serious" directors don't want to be involved in an obvious money-grubbing re-hash of a franchise that should never have been re-booted. 

 

Other than JJ Abrams - who has his strengths and weaknesses as a director - Disney has been dredging up nobodies to run  what is supposed to be a multi-billion dollar franchise. We all know that Rian Johnson was an absolute clusterfuck being allowed to direct AND write The Last Jedi and the guy has done nothing except Loopers FFS. 

 

But he's not the only one.

 

Rogue One - which is an OK film - was directed by some guy called Gareth Edwards. What sort of name is "Gareth" by the way? He's another nobody who has no resume other than the re-boot of the re-boot for Godzilla. And Lord help me how modern American directors have found a way to make worse, more unrealistic Godzilla movies than their Japanese counterparts with a dude smashing up an Erector set in a rubber dinosaur suit, but Hollywood can't make a Godzilla movie for shit either.

 

And the Han Solo origin story is an even more extreme example. Disney gave the origin story to one of the most iconic sci-fi characters in history to the douche-bags that did the re-boot of 21 Jump Street franchise and the Lego movie. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Lord_and_Christopher_Miller#Career

 

What world do the Disney executives inhabit where they think that 21 (and 22) Jump Street movies are good and the film's directors should be given free rein to direct your flagship movie for the summer of 2018? it's just boggles the mind. The fortunate thing is that someone came to their senses when they took a look at the rough cuts and realized that - surprise! - the directors were making an ironic comedy movie. 

 

So Disney brought Ron Howard in to salvage the Han Solo movie and - according to the movie rags - he re-shot EVERY SINGLE SCENE. 

 

I'm cautiously optimistic about Solo since I respect Ron Howard as a director. He's not the greatest director in the world but the guy has a solid resume in front of and behind the camera. And what I didn't know was that George Lucas wanted him to direct The Phantom menace prequel which probably would have given us a less sucky Anakin and a less sucky JarJar Binks story line.

 

Amen brother.  It amazes me that they can't find competent directors for these films.  The other thing I don't understand is how do they go into what is basically the biggest trilogy of the decade without having an overall idea of where it is going?  You would think they would at least have a plot framework for each film to make sure they all fit together. Based on the Last Jedi, it's obvious they are making this shit up as they go along.

 

The Solo movie is going to suck.  Every time I see a clip for it, I think, who the fuck is this guy?  I'm sorry, Harrison Ford is Han Solo.  You can't replace him with someone else.  

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22 minutes ago, Walter_Sobchak said:

 

Amen brother.  It amazes me that they can't find competent directors for these films.  The other thing I don't understand is how do they go into what is basically the biggest trilogy of the decade without having an overall idea of where it is going?  You would think they would at least have a plot framework for each film to make sure they all fit together. Based on the Last Jedi, it's obvious they are making this shit up as they go along.

 

That is puzzling as well.

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It's like Disney is using the Internet/YouTube/StarWars fan groups as an informal Focus Group with how these films are being written in regards to the overall story arch and key plot points to the film in order to do the exact opposite.

 

Question on the parentage of Rey: Fans think she might be Obi Wan's granddaughter. Or spontaneously generated by the Force like Anakin. Or they're exiled Jedi who survived the Revenge of the Sith bloodletting. Or whatever.

 

Disney's answer: Her parents are scavangers who sold her for Purple Drank.

 

Question on the Origins of Snoke: Is he Darth Plagueis? Is he (Insert Extended Universe novel villain here)? Is he 20 feet tall? Is he Yoda sized operating some Wizard of Oz like projector? 

 

Disney's answer: Nah. Snoke's just some guy and not important. Let's kill him off.

 

Question on the Knights of Ren: Hey maybe the Knights of Ren are really...

 

Disney's answer: Nah, fuck those guys too.

 

Question on the origins of that weird goggle wearing-alien chick who had the lightsaber: Hey, what's with...

 

Disney's answer: Fuck her too.

 

Question on the Star Wars fanbase: Yeah, it seems like a lot of white, male, Gen-Xers who grew up with Star Wars and who bought(parents bought) billions of dollars in merchandise are somewhat annoyed at how all of their favorite characters are getting killed off for no reason.

 

Disney's answer: Admiral Akbar gets killed for no reason like a bitch so we can insert a purple-haired, pedant, no one has heard of or cares about to appease our SJW friends. 

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I just wish they'd make new ideas instead of pure nostalgia bait. I'd ask Tarantino to make a Star Wars movie that's just some criminal scumbags doing crime that happens to be in the Star Wars setting.

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