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An SSK chasing an SSN seems a little off to me. Kilo top speed is ~20kn, A-boat can do ~30kn, so the SSN could just leg it. A russian SSN hunting the A-boat sounds more plausible, but those don't tend to come into port very often (so tabloids wouldn't have any evidence they were present)

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4 hours ago, LostCosmonaut said:

Old news, but the USN is going to replace the Ohio SSGN conversions with Columbia class boats; https://news.usni.org/2017/11/02/navy-considering-mid-block-virginia-class-upgrades-ssgn-construction-late-2030s

 

An SSGN is different enough in a strategic sense from an SSBN that a new class name is in order.  Since this will be essentially a companion class to the Colombia class, I move that it be named the Magenta class.

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SSGNs aren't going to bridge the gap between the SSBN buys, unless they either buy a shedload of SSGNs or stretch them out to one every five years or so. Other than a longer assembly hall and a few extra tubes, is there really that big a difference between constructing an SSBN and SSN?

 

In other news, Indonesia has won at submarines:

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http://www.janes.com/article/80159/indonesia-s-second-nagapasa-class-submarine-arrives-home

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Indonesia’s second Nagapasa-class submarine arrives home

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - Jane's Navy International
18 May 2018

 

The Indonesian Navy’s (Tentara Nasional Indonesia – Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL’s) second Nagapasa (Type 209/1400)-class diesel-electric submarine (SSK) has arrived in Surabaya, Indonesia, after a 22-day journey from Okpo, South Korea.

The boat, which will be known as KRI Ardadedali with pennant number 404 once in service, is expected to be commissioned in the coming weeks. Ardadedali ’s sister ship, first-of-class KRI Nagapasa (403), was commissioned in August 2017, while a third vessel is under construction at Indonesian shipbuilder PT PAL’s facilities in Surabaya.

 

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From one of the articles

 



While the information was stored on the contractor’s unclassified network, it was described as “highly sensitive” in the Post report.

 

Why the fuck would you put that shit on the unclassified network. You fucking idiots.

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The new UK OPVs are having issues. We paid through the nose for them, as we were under contractual obligations to keep the yard on the clyde in work, and now it turns out that they need major rectification work before they're ready for service (reportedly to be paid for by BAE, which is a small blessing). It has been reported that they've been formally handed back to BAE, however BAE disagrees. BAE also state:

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In order to gain access to areas of the ship to complete rectification work we have taken over the care and protection of HMS FORTH for a short period. This is standard procedure when maintaining a ship for the Royal Navy.”

 

Which sounds a lot like "handed back to BAE" to me

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Can anyone give me an ID on this torpedo?

 

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Israeli Navy says this "Heavy Torpedo" undergone extensive trials and is now entering service, so it must be something rather new. Unfortunately I'm not very fluent in naval warfare and naval weaponry.

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Australia has chosen the BAE T26 design for their new frigates

 

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Theresa May hails ‘biggest naval defence contract for a decade’ as Australia picks Type 26 Frigate

Prime Minister Theresa May has hailed a shipbuilding contract worth up to £20 billion between BAE Systems and the Australian government as the biggest Naval defence contract for a decade.

BAE Systems has been chosen as the preferred bidder for the ‘SEA 5000’ Future Frigate competition, with a design based on Britain’s Type 26 Global Combat Ship. It will involve BAE Systems building nine British-designed warships in Adelaide, the first export of a British design for new-build frigates since the 1970s.

Type 26 was chosen over bids from Italy and Spain for the contract.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/theresa-may-hails-biggest-naval-defence-contract-for-a-decade-as-australia-picks-type-26-frigate/

 

Hopefully canada follows suit - it won't really help the UK economy at all (as the canadian and australian programs are local production), but it'd be neat to have a commonwealth user group for T26

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In Australian service, the Hunter class will have different radars (Australian phased array radars), missiles (SM2 & ESSM), guns (Mk54, Typhoon, & Mini-Typhoon), combat system (AEGIS), and combat interface (9LV) than the Type 26, as well as being built in an Australian shipyard. I think it’s more accurate to say that the BAE entry was picked, not that the Type 26 was picked. 

 

http://www.defence.gov.au/casg/Multimedia/HunterClassFFGFactSheet-9-9233.pdf

 

http://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/australia_18-26.pdf

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7 minutes ago, 2805662 said:

In Australian service, the Hunter class will have different radars (Australian phased array radars), missiles (SM2 & ESSM), guns (Mk54, Typhoon, & Mini-Typhoon), combat system (AEGIS), and combat interface (9LV) than the Type 26, as well as being built in an Australian shipyard. I think it’s more accurate to say that the BAE entry was picked, not that the Type 26 was picked. 

 

http://www.defence.gov.au/casg/Multimedia/HunterClassFFGFactSheet-9-9233.pdf

 

http://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/australia_18-26.pdf

Sounds like exactly what we should get.  But probably won't.

 

 

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