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  1. Hi guys, I would like to take this place to ask that how credible is this article?

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    Screenshot from Magazine RAIDS Les Chars de Combat en Action 3,.

    All of tanks mentioned in this article have taken part in the Sweden trials, I suppose that maybe the author would have some materials related to the true armor layout.:P

  2. Modified MBT-2000(many details very closed to the VT-4 mod.2012,but with 6TD-2 engine) and BK1871(the initial prototype of Type-90 II/MBT-2000)appear in a last year documentary video.【央视纪录片】军工记忆-链接世界 CCTV9

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    Modified MBT-2000↑

     

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    The BK 1871 on the left, note its very sloping UFP , and side by side is the MBT-2000 FP-1, FP means "Formal  Prototype", which was designed a new hull nose structure.

    More pics about BK1871:

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    There are also another interesting details of MBT-2000 )222401figa01vvg2vfelze.png

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  3. On 4/27/2018 at 10:00 PM, LoooSeR said:

    The R&D programm for Armata ERA is called "Bronepoezd-2" (Armored train-2), ar at least it is what is belived.

       Malakhit ERA was mentioned during Object 187 development, and claimed to be a base for Relikt ERA. Also Malakhit AFAIK never was pre-trigger type of ERA.

    Can you post more details about these R&D programs? 

  4. In short:
    The text in PDF says that the structure of the special armor is unknown, and only the hull base armor layout and the performance of some modules are known.
    Because Merkava's special armor is modular design,  maybe it was presumed that the LFP also can be fitted with additional armor.

    No idea about those illustrations' original source,  It may be the author's record during his visit to Israel.

  5. 19 hours ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

    Also: Despite the thickness there being odd on the T-9/4, it makes sense that it's a "9" and not a "3" because the roof armor was there to protect against RPG warheads, not ATGMs, whilst the turret sides at a certain angle were indeed supposed to provide protection against ATGMs. 

    But its angle looks very strange.

  6. Something interesting about Merkava III's armor protection(in Chinese):

    Some of these images are come from Chinese course book《装甲防护技术基础》(The basic technology of armor protection), and others are come from this issue: http://www.cnki.com.cn/Article/CJFDTotal-BQZS200108004.htm

    The main author of these two sources is one of the chief tank designers in China. Mr.Zhang has presided over a design of front-engine tank scheme under the frame of Chinese 3rd gen MBT, but there was little info refer to these history)

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    Photo of Mr.Zhang and General Tal.

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    The cast turret base and weld frame.

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    Special armor covered, those colored parts most likely are heavy NERA or Built-in-ERA structure modules, while others are lighter module I guess.

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    T-3/4 module before shooting by a HEAT warhead of HOT missile. According to previous picture, it should be the side armor of the turret. So we can assume that the front arc of Merkava III's turret, looks likely ±30°,which can withstand more than 700mm even 800mm penetration from CE threat.

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    Still the T-3/4 module,before hitting by a RPG warhead. 

    I am confused this number as T-9/4 at my first look, but it is more likely a distorted "3". There are some reasons: (1) Its thickness doesn't seem to fit on top of the turret. (2) In this pic the threat is RPG warhead, moreover, its incidence normal angle is smaller than the previous HOT warhead, which can be used as a useful basis for judging.

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    Built-in ERA structure, the left side is Israeli scheme, and Russian scheme at right side.

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    The armor layout of tank Merkava Mk III. The solid line is base steel armor's equivalent thickness, including spaced armor array inside the hull( The table above shows the thickness and inclination of the base steel armor,  unfortunately many  notes are missing in the PDF) and the dotted line is the special armor's protection capability against KE ammunition, up to 450mm RHA on turret front and 350-400mm on the UFP.

     

     

    Hope you guys will enjoy this post:D

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