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SH_MM also stepped up with some really dumb contradictions, like saying that no ngp prototype was ever build, but ngp was never cancelled. He litterally implied no Puma was ever build. How dumb is that?

Thank you. Do you have a picture about the TTS, too?

You failed the reading comprehension test once again. I didn't ask for pictures of you 'providing a source', i ask for a picture of the source. 'suspension' doesn't mean 'hydropneumatic suspension'. I mentioned 'suspension' because it's decoupled.

Do you understand what the logical operator 'and' does? Another proof that your dimwit brain can only handle one condition. The vehicles you mentioned don't satisfy the remaining conditions.

T-72A? It lost its cheek. OMG stop the bully!

It's a typo. "Father of the Armata" doesn't imply "Russians stole the unmanned turret concept from the West". I already explained why, but your dimwit brain can't handle more than one condition.

Provide a quote.

Nobody made that claim afaik, so what's the point of this strawman?

Never claimed modular didn't exist before. Never claimed EGS used hydro shocks. It doesn't matter when KM started to develope the decoupled running gear. It's still an adaptation. You have the reading comprehension of a six-year-old. You didn't provide any sources either. Pics or it didn't happen.

Does it have a unmanned turret?

The Armata is a concept for a family of AVs with an unmanned turret. Where do you see a family of AVs? I don't see more than a MBT in the thread. WIth the NGP however I do.

You contradicted yourself twice in one post, because the Puma is an adaptation of the EGS(running gear + modular armour).

I don't see how a test bed can't be a prototype, but whatever..... Also i never claimed that the EGS was a prototype. If you post the drawing of the TTK, I will correct the thread.

Exactly where do you see the Armata concept in that thread?

The photograph doesn't simply show the EGS, but the TTK(EGS + built in battle simulater) which was used as a testbed for the NGP. How is that not a NGP prototype? The EGS is not unrelated to the NGP, because it's appurtenant to the realization of the two-crewmen concept. Do you have a source on the dimensions and road wheel size? You apparently have little to no clue what you are talking about. Please try to check facts before spreading incorrect informations.

How? Armament: Available: 120mm L44 + several auto loader designs 120mm L55 + several auto loader designs NPzK-140 + at least one auto loader design In development: Type A. B and C ETC-Cannon Type C would not have been ready before 2010 though. Armor package: The package on Leopard 2A5 Mexas AWiSS APS <- I updated the thread

Hello, this is my first post. Please no bully. :3 Panzerkampfwagen 2000 In 1988 Germany developed a concept for a tank with two crew men. In order to test whether it's possible for only two crew men to operate a tank effectively, a Leopard 1 and a Leopard 2 were modified. Field trials were held in 1990 and subsequently it was concluded to be a viable concept in 1992. The project was however canceled, because the downfall of the Soviet Union meant, that a new battle tank was no longer needed. Furthermore Israel stealing submarines and reunification meant that the budget was not sufficient either. Neue Gepanzerte Plattform In 1995 a concept for a whole family of armored vehicles(SPAAG, MBT, IFV) was developed, where the MBT would be manned by two man, just like the Panzerkampfwagen 2000. A prototype was build and tested in 1997. However a further budget cut lead to the cancellation in 1998. Wegmann desgin: Turret + autoloader: http://www.patent-de.com/pdf/DE19644524A1.pdf Diehl developed an APS for this tank: AWiSS EGS: Hull length = 8,67m Full width = 3,98m Width between the tracks = 3,5m Height = 2,71m The intended combat weight for the complete tank was between 55t and 77t. Can anyone calculate the the cross section areas and the protection levels for the front and the side, assuming mid-90s filler materials were used? Thanks for your attention!